Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

[mike tesko]

Bloodied fingerprints on the edge of kitchen worktop were / are from Ralph Bambers left hand, and blood on the floor is related to this injury. If Ralph was already injured when he made the call to Jeremy's cottage, he must have picked up and used the telephone with the fingers of his uninjured right hand. However, the bullet wound injury to Ralph's left arm could have taken place or occurred after Ralph had called Jeremy and the police, or even before Ralph activated the attack alarm. Either way, this gives a perfectly reasonable explanation for why there was no blood found on the telephone ( I would strongly suggest)...

Just for arguments sake, let us look at the four non fatal wounds the police case suggests were inflicted whilst he was upstairs in the bedroom:-

(1) - Bullet PV/2 - left arm of Ralph Bmber
(2) - Bullet PV/5 - fragment from left jaw
(3) - Bullet PV/10 - left side of neck
(4) - Bullet PV/11 - cervical muscles in left side of neck

Now...

Ask yourself why there was / is no evidence at all that Ralph Bamber was bleeding from any other wound other than the wound to his left arm at the time he left his fingerprints on the edge of the kitchen worktop? Why was / is there no evidence of any expiated blood from the other three wounds to his jaw, and the left side of his neck, found upon the top of the kitchen worktop, or upon any sundry item placed there in that locality? I would suggest that the marked absence of any such expiated blood from these other wounds was / is because by that stage when those bloodied fingermarks were made upon the edge of the worktop, had not been inflicted by the time those fingermarks were made there on that part of the worktop. If anything, the absence of any expiated blood from any or either of the other three wounds helps to establish that Ralph Bamber had not been shot up to four times inside the main bedroom....

[mike tesko]

If I am wrong (which I am not) it would mean that Ralph was shot four times non fatally upstairs in the bedroom, and that he made it all the way downstairs to the kitchen, without so much of a speck of microscopic blood being expiated in the bedroom, on the landing, down the stairs and on the kitchen worktop close to the telephone?

I am sorry but that proposition is a totally unacceptable one - it didn't happen like that at all...

[mike tesko]

If I am wrong (which I am not) it would mean that Ralph was shot four times non fatally upstairs in the bedroom, and that he made it all the way downstairs to the kitchen, without so much of a speck of microscopic blood being expiated in the bedroom, on the landing, down the stairs and on the kitchen worktop close to the telephone?

I am sorry but that proposition is a totally unacceptable one - it didn't happen like that at all...

Furthermore, no expiated blood in the vicinity of the aga surround where the alleged struggle between Ralph and his killer took place? Think about it, it didn't happen like that at all. Police have introduced a story to fool the jury into convicting Jeremy of these murders by relying upon a false scenario that Ralph had been shot four times in the bedroom. Police falsified the account about how many bullet cases had been found inside the main bedroom by adding four additional bullet cases to the total found there, changing the ratio from 8 to 12 in the process...

[mike tesko]

Absence of blood on the telephone is indicative of Ralph having made that call to Jeremy and the police before he was shot in the jaw, and the right side of his neck...

[mike tesko]

Absence of blood on the telephone is indicative of Ralph having made that call to Jeremy and the police before he was shot in the jaw, and the right side of his neck...

What is also apparent is that Ralph was not shot four times non fatally upstairs in the bedroom, before he came downstairs, or was brought downstairs, but that he may have been shot at least three times non fatally whilst he was present in the kitchen? I am prepared to accept that he could have been shot once non fatally whilst he was upstairs on the landing near the top of the stairs, but if so no time can be fixed to exactly at what stage he was shot in the laft arm on that occasion?

[Steve_uk]

So you're saying that at this stage Sheila has shot Ralph(Nevill) once,he decides to try and conceal the fact that it's a family member so he contacts another member of the family,Jeremy on the telephone to keep the incident "in-house". But we have to explain why this telephone call is interrupted suddenly,and how Nevill manages to make a further call to the Police. If Sheila is standing over him with the gun at this stage and he puts the receiver down,then she gives him the severe beating with the rifle butt it would explain the blood in the telephone area but not where Nevill's body is eventually found.

However if it was Jeremy who came into the master bedroom after having shot the twins in theirs it's possible that Nevill is waiting for the intruder. Jeremy starts firing at Nevill and June,but runs out of ammunition and has to reload the gun. Nevill manages to get onto the landing and moves downstairs to attempt to use the telephone. Nevill is shot once more on the landing but manages to get into the kitchen as far as the kitchen worktop where he rests his bloodied hand,but by this time Jeremy is there and fires at him again. Nevill instinctively heads for the kitchen door where he is finally killed and bashed by Jeremy. In this scenario there is no telephone call. Then Jeremy goes back upstairs to finish off June,who by this stage has managed to drag herself to the door,where she dies with a gunshot between the eyes.

He then goes to Sheila,who as Pamela Boutflour said at 10pm the previous evening sounded like a zombie,and who would go to her death meekly not knowing anything about it.

[mike tesko]

So you're saying that at this stage Sheila has shot Ralph(Nevill) once,he decides to try and conceal the fact that it's a family member so he contacts another member of the family,Jeremy on the telephone to keep the incident "in-house". But we have to explain why this telephone call is interrupted suddenly,and how Nevill manages to make a further call to the Police.

I am not saying that Sheila has shot Ralph by the time he made the call to Jeremy, and or the police, or even when he activated the attack alarm which sent the police at Witham racing to the scene. I am pointing out that even if she had it would account for why there was no blood on the telephone...

[Patti]

So you're saying that at this stage Sheila has shot Ralph(Nevill) once,he decides to try and conceal the fact that it's a family member so he contacts another member of the family,Jeremy on the telephone to keep the incident "in-house". But we have to explain why this telephone call is interrupted suddenly,and how Nevill manages to make a further call to the Police. If Sheila is standing over him with the gun at this stage and he puts the receiver down,then she gives him the severe beating with the rifle butt it would explain the blood in the telephone area but not where Nevill's body is eventually found.

However if it was Jeremy who came into the master bedroom after having shot the twins in theirs it's possible that Nevill is waiting for the intruder. Jeremy starts firing at Nevill and June,but runs out of ammunition and has to reload the gun. Nevill manages to get onto the landing and moves downstairs to attempt to use the telephone. Nevill is shot once more on the landing but manages to get into the kitchen as far as the kitchen worktop where he rests his bloodied hand,but by this time Jeremy is there and fires at him again. Nevill instinctively heads for the kitchen door where he is finally killed and bashed by Jeremy. In this scenario there is no telephone call. Then Jeremy goes back upstairs to finish off June,who by this stage has managed to drag herself to the door,where she dies with a gunshot between the eyes.

He then goes to Sheila,who as Pamela Boutflour said at 10pm the previous evening sounded like a zombie,and who would go to her death meekly not knowing anything about it.

But June wasn't heading towards the door, she was going the opposite way towards where Sheila was....this is so obvious...look at June's picture and stand her up..her killer was infront of her at the bottom of the bed...

[mike tesko]

. But we have to explain why this telephone call is interrupted suddenly,and how Nevill manages to make a further call to the Police.

I think that Ralph very quickly interrupted the call to Jeremy because he may have become aware that Sheila might soon be coming downstairs, and he took the opportunity to make the call to the police, which resulted in Jeremy being unable to re-establish contact with Ralph and which produced the inevitable engaged tone when Jeremy tried to call back...

[andrea]

It looks like her killer had been stood above her, june already on the floor wounded, then gets a shot between the eyes.

[mike tesko]

If Sheila is standing over him with the gun at this stage and he puts the receiver down,then she gives him the severe beating with the rifle butt it would explain the blood in the telephone area but not where Nevill's body is eventually found.

I don't think it happened quite like that...

I am not happy with the suggestion that anybody battered Ralph with the butt of the rifle, I think injuries found on his body were made when he fell after being shot and those prts of his body struck blunt objects or surfaces (that's my explanation, anyway)...

[Patti]

It looks like her killer had been stood above her, june already on the floor wounded, then gets a shot between the eyes.

No way is her killer stood above her and, shoots her where she falls near the door. Look at the blood spatter there is none at the door way. She was shot stood up, all the spatter went left of the bottom of the bed...there is no bleeding from that wound where her body lays....June has a wound to he shoulder and this marks the door as she fell backwards...

[Steve_uk]

I don't have the picture of June,nor Anne Eaton's statement if anybody has the link? At what point was the panic alarm activated and is there any official record of it?

[mike tesko]

However if it was Jeremy who came into the master bedroom after having shot the twins in theirs it's possible that Nevill is waiting for the intruder. Jeremy starts firing at Nevill and June,but runs out of ammunition and has to reload the gun. Nevill manages to get onto the landing and moves downstairs to attempt to use the telephone. Nevill is shot once more on the landing but manages to get into the kitchen as far as the kitchen worktop where he rests his bloodied hand,but by this time Jeremy is there and fires at him again. Nevill instinctively heads for the kitchen door where he is finally killed and bashed by Jeremy. In this scenario there is no telephone call. Then Jeremy goes back upstairs to finish off June,who by this stage has managed to drag herself to the door,where she dies with a gunshot between the eyes.

But there was a telephone call to Jeremy's cottage, and the police, and somebody activated the attack alarm which sent the police at Witham police station (CA07) racing to the scene, updated about the call Jeremy had made to PC West, whilst CA07 were already en route to the scene...

[Steve_uk]

I think that Ralph very quickly interrupted the call to Jeremy because he may have become aware that Sheila might soon be coming downstairs, and he took the opportunity to make the call to the police, which resulted in Jeremy being unable to re-establish contact with Ralph and which produced the inevitable engaged tone when Jeremy tried to call back...

Yet Ralph(Nevill) the farmer doesn't avail himself of a gun from the den to protect his family.