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Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

His head was photographed inside the coal scuttle, yet he had no facial injuries injuries on his face or head from it falling into contact against the metal rim of the bucket?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 07:14:PM by mike tesko »
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Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

His head was photographed inside the coal scuttle, yet he had no facial injuries injuries on his face or head from it falling into contact against the metal rim of the bucket?

If police found Ralph's body with his head resting in the coal hod, surely they would have been alerted to the fact that someone had placed his body on the floor in that position, with his head in the coal bucket and that there was no injuries to his face or his head from it striking the rim of the metal bucket?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 07:17:PM by mike tesko »
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If police found Ralph's body with his head resting in the coal hod, surely they would have been alerted to the fact that someone had placed his body on the floor in that position, with his head in the coal bucket and that there was no injuries to his face or his head from it striking the rim of the metal bucket?

Not to mention for the fact that the gap behind the overturned chair upon which the crumpled heap of his body was just sufficient for the internal door that led through to the entrance hallway of the other kitchen, and the opening to the downstairs office, for the police to gain entry to the main kitchen?
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Not to mention for the fact that the gap behind the overturned chair upon which the crumpled heap of his body was just sufficient for the internal door that led through to the entrance hallway of the other kitchen, and the opening to the downstairs office, for the police to gain entry to the main kitchen?

Furthermore...

the fact that any would be killer had placed and positioned a pair of cotton trousers, along with a series of seat cushions, and a towel on the floor in the immediate vicinity at the base of the coal bucket, to prevent the spread of blood further afield on the kitchen floor, did nothing to alert the police that someone had gone out of their way to keep large areas of the kitchen floor blood free?
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Furthermore...

the fact that any would be killer had placed and positioned a pair of cotton trousers, along with a series of seat cushions, and a towel on the floor in the immediate vicinity at the base of the coal bucket, to prevent the spread of blood further afield on the kitchen floor, did nothing to alert the police that someone had gone out of their way to keep large areas of the kitchen floor blood free?

How convenient, also that the kitchen table was pushed to one side to allow the placement of the seat cushions, trousers and towel, aforementioned, on the floor, to do the job they had been placed there to do?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 07:33:PM by mike tesko »
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According to one of the very first police officers who entered the main kitchen as part of the raid team, he described the scene that met the police inside, and in particular - that the kitchen table was overturned with broken crockery strewn about all over the kitchen floor? How then, is the kitchen table photographed upright with utensils and other sundries upon it by the time PC Bird started to take his crime scene photographs at about and from 10 O'clock that morning? How did the overturned kitchen table upright itself and have things placed upon the top of it, two and a half hours later?
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According to one of the very first police officers who entered the main kitchen as part of the raid team, he described the scene that met the police inside, and in particular - that the kitchen table was overturned with broken crockery strewn about all over the kitchen floor? How then, is the kitchen table photographed upright with utensils and other sundries upon it by the time PC Bird started to take his crime scene photographs at about and from 10 O'clock that morning? How did the overturned kitchen table upright itself and have things placed upon the top of it, two and a half hours later?

Worse still...

By the time PC Bird started to photograph the scene in the kitchen, there had materialized a large wooden chair, between the position of Ralph Bambers crumpled overturned body, and the door behind this which led to and from the hallway in the vicinity of the other kitchen and back door - how then if the police had not touched or moved anything prior to these photographs being taken by PC Bird at and from 10 O'clock, had the original raid team managed to get into the kitchen through that blocked doorway in order to make the discovery of only Ralph Bambers body in the kitchen, without disturbing that large wooden chair? How had it been physically possible for anyone to get into the kitchen with that large wooden chair pushed up against the very door that needed to open inwards into the main kitchen?

Impossible...
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 07:48:PM by mike tesko »
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Worse still...

By the time PC Bird started to photograph the scene in the kitchen, there had materialized a large wooden chair, between the position of Ralph Bambers crumpled overturned body, and the door behind this which led to and from the hallway in the vicinity of the other kitchen and back door - how then if the police had not touched or moved anything prior to these photographs being taken by PC Bird at and from 10 O'clock, had the original raid team managed to get into the kitchen through that blocked doorway in order to make the discovery of only Ralph Bambers body in the kitchen, without disturbing that large wooden chair? How had it been physically possible for anyone to get into the kitchen with that large wooden chair pushed up against the very door that needed to open inwards into the main kitchen?

Impossible...

With that large wooden chair pushed tightly up against the door between the kitchen and the back door entrance, not only would access to the main kitchen have not been possible for the six members of the raid team who first entered the kitchen at about 7:35am, but it would have prevented the senior officers who followed them into the kitchen at about 8:15am, to enter the premises by the very same route?
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With that large wooden chair pushed tightly up against the door between the kitchen and the back door entrance, not only would access to the main kitchen have not been possible for the six members of the raid team who first entered the kitchen at about 7:35am, but it would have prevented the senior officers who followed them into the kitchen at about 8:15am, to enter the premises by the very same route?

When the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and PI "Bob" Miller, entered the premises they would have been prevented from examining the body of Ralph Bamber in the kitchen and pronouncing him as being dead, (8:44am) because they would not have been able to get through the door into the kitchen by the route they described having taken, because of the position of that large wooden chair directly behind the door?
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When the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and PI "Bob" Miller, entered the premises they would have been prevented from examining the body of Ralph Bamber in the kitchen and pronouncing him as being dead, (8:44am) because they would not have been able to get through the door into the kitchen by the route they described having taken, because of the position of that large wooden chair directly behind the door?

By 9am, the Commander of the firearms operation, PS Adams, would not have been able to enter the kitchen and survey the scene there, because the very same door which would have served to prevent access to the kitchen by the raid team, would still be in the same position blocking off direct access...
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By 9am, the Commander of the firearms operation, PS Adams, would not have been able to enter the kitchen and survey the scene there, because the very same door which would have served to prevent access to the kitchen by the raid team, would still be in the same position blocking off direct access...

With the arrival of DCI "Taff" Jones, and DC Clarke at the scene at about 9:10am, how would they have been able to enter the main kitchen and see the body of Ralph Bamber, with that wooden chair still pushed up into position against the inside of the internal kitchen door?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 08:05:PM by mike tesko »
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With the arrival of DCI "Taff" Jones, and DC Clarke at the scene at about 9:10am, how would they have been able to enter the main kitchen and see the body of Ralph Bamber, with that wooden chair still pushed up into position against the inside of the internal kitchen door?

Then of course...

What about the group of training officers who carried out a reconstruction of the raid as part of a training exercise? How had they managed to reconstruct access into the main kitchen, through the very door which was blocked off because of that wooden chair being pushed up against the door inside the kitchen, thus preventing the possibility of the door in question being opened at all?
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Then of course...

What about the group of training officers who carried out a reconstruction of the raid as part of a training exercise? How had they managed to reconstruct access into the main kitchen, through the very door which was blocked off because of that wooden chair being pushed up against the door inside the kitchen, thus preventing the possibility of the door in question being opened at all?

By the time SOCO arrived at the scene (9:20am), how had they managed to get into the main kitchen to view the overturned body of Ralph Bamber with his uninjured head in the coal bucket, if they could not get through the very door behind which was jammed the large wooden chair?
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By the time SOCO arrived at the scene (9:20am), how had they managed to get into the main kitchen to view the overturned body of Ralph Bamber with his uninjured head in the coal bucket, if they could not get through the very door behind which was jammed the large wooden chair?

10 minutes later, with the arrival of the Coroners officer, PC Wright, do I really need to ask the very same question, about how he managed to get into the main kitchen to view the body of Ralph Bamber, with his uninjured head resting in the coal hod, and the kitchen table overturned, or up righted by this stage, and the pair of cotton trousers, seat cushions and a towel strewn about on the Kitchen floor controlling the spread of blood?

Does anybody really believe that the police did not move or touch anything at all until after PC Bird started to take and took all of his photographs in certain parts of the farmhouse, from after 10 am?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 08:18:PM by mike tesko »
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Did Jeremy stage manage the scene in the kitchen?

Did Sheila stage manage the scene in the kitchen?

Did Ralph Bamber stage manage the scene in the kitchen?

Did June Bamber stage manage the scene in the kitchen?

Did some as yet unidentified killer, stage manage the scene in the kitchen?

Or was it the police?
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