journey from whf to goldhanger

[keepers]

a lot has been said about jeremy committing the murders and then cycling home along the sea wall to avoid detection. believe me i live not too far away and some times leave for work at 3am. do you know how many times a neighbour has said to me"you were out early this morning?" countless. the journey from the sea wall to head street takes you directly in front of the chequers pub and pass a few houses. there is always at least one nosy neighbour on the look out. this is a village full of elderly people that tend to sleep a lot lighter than the younger ones amongst us!! 

[susan]

Hi keepers  and don,t forget it has been implied by some that Jeremy committed the murders wearing a wet suit I am sure he would have been noticed going at speed on his Mother,s bike back to his home at Goldhangers in the time he had,

[lookout]

Hi keepers  and don,t forget it has been implied by some that Jeremy committed the murders wearing a wet suit I am sure he would have been noticed going at speed on his Mother,s bike back to his home at Goldhangers in the time he had,

Complete with flippers and a snorkel.

[Jane]

a lot has been said about jeremy committing the murders and then cycling home along the sea wall to avoid detection. believe me i live not too far away and some times leave for work at 3am. do you know how many times a neighbour has said to me"you were out early this morning?" countless. the journey from the sea wall to head street takes you directly in front of the chequers pub and pass a few houses. there is always at least one nosy neighbour on the look out. this is a village full of elderly people that tend to sleep a lot lighter than the younger ones amongst us!!

Hello Keepers. I'm told that if Jeremy had undertaken such a perilous journey on a bike, at that time of night, even dressed normally!!!!! he would have been taking his life in his hands.

[grahameb]

a lot has been said about jeremy committing the murders and then cycling home along the sea wall to avoid detection. believe me i live not too far away and some times leave for work at 3am. do you know how many times a neighbour has said to me"you were out early this morning?" countless. the journey from the sea wall to head street takes you directly in front of the chequers pub and pass a few houses. there is always at least one nosy neighbour on the look out. this is a village full of elderly people that tend to sleep a lot lighter than the younger ones amongst us!!

Believe you me that they are all nosey neighbours if you live in the country.

[susan]

Hi Grahame  thanks for that I have always lived in the Country Could you explain to me what is with the phone calls made by Ralph made by Jeremy etc.  If Jeremy had committed the murders he could have done the deed removed anything to link him to the crime scene away home to bed and await to be contacted by a member of staff the following morning.  Why would he tell lies about phone calls all he had to do was not confide in Miss Mugford and he would have got away with it.

[grahameb]

Hi Grahame  thanks for that I have always lived in the Country Could you explain to me what is with the phone calls made by Ralph made by Jeremy etc.  If Jeremy had committed the murders he could have done the deed removed anything to link him to the crime scene away home to bed and await to be contacted by a member of staff the following morning.  Why would he tell lies about phone calls all he had to do was not confide in Miss Mugford and he would have got away with it.

Hi Susan. So do I. When I first came to Maldon in the early 60's the old Maldonians were always very friendly. Always leaning on their gates and gossipping. Everyone knew everyone elses business. Countryfolk I found were all naturally nosey. It's doesn't mean they offensive. It's just human nature in a small community.
That has always been my stand. Jeremy didn't have to make any phone calls at all. But because he did the anti's condemn him for it and deduce from that fact that he did the murders. No doubt if he had said nothing at all the same people would say. "Why isn't Jeremy dead as well?". Well...err..he didn't live at WHF. I strongly feel that whatever Jeremy did he would somehow have been blamed for the murders. Why? Because NO ONE in his extended family liked him. It makes me wonder why none of the extended family were ever under suspicion at any time?

[lookout]

Susan,,I'm sure that if Jeremy had thought what might befall him,,as it did,,,he'd have turned over. I wonder if he's ever thought about the fact that if he'd ignored his fathers' plea,,he wouldn't be where he is now. It makes you think twice of going to anyones' aid if this is the end result.

[susan]

Hi Grahame  I just love country life nosey or not it is never boring.  As far as Jeremy is concerned he was made the scapegoat the extended family who I belief referred to Jeremy as a Cuckoo (if this is true they cannot be nice kind people as that is so cruel to refer to an adopted child as a Cuckoo.  I read the other day that Pam,s husband Robert thingy said he absolutely loathed Jeremy I wonder how this can be  The phone calls happened because that was how the events of the night went Jeremy had no control over who Ralph phoned  I am sure at the time Jeremy would not have envisaged just how serious the situation was. .

[susan]

Hi lookout I think Jeremy had no idea just how serious the situation at the farm really was and he would have been in shock for days after the event.

[Neil]

a lot has been said about jeremy committing the murders and then cycling home along the sea wall to avoid detection. believe me i live not too far away and some times leave for work at 3am. do you know how many times a neighbour has said to me"you were out early this morning?" countless. the journey from the sea wall to head street takes you directly in front of the chequers pub and pass a few houses. there is always at least one nosy neighbour on the look out. this is a village full of elderly people that tend to sleep a lot lighter than the younger ones amongst us!!

Does anyone know if house to house enquiries were conducted? If so, how extensively was this done?  My thought is that, perhaps as it was initially treated as a suicide/murder, witnesses were not sought. 

[grahameb]

Hi Grahame  I just love country life nosey or not it is never boring.  As far as Jeremy is concerned he was made the scapegoat the extended family who I belief referred to Jeremy as a Cuckoo (if this is true they cannot be nice kind people as that is so cruel to refer to an adopted child as a Cuckoo.  I read the other day that Pam,s husband Robert thingy said he absolutely loathed Jeremy I wonder how this can be  The phone calls happened because that was how the events of the night went Jeremy had no control over who Ralph phoned  I am sure at the time Jeremy would not have envisaged just how serious the situation was. .

I know this is not really any proof of the man's character one way or the other. But I knew several people who knew RB and did work for him and none of them liked him. But I had never personally met him.

[grahameb]

I don't see Jeremy cycling back to his cottage in a wetsuit either,although it's worth remembering that he did spend time in New Zealand and Australia wearing one so he did have one in his possession. However he just doesn't have time to clean up and hide the bloodstained clothing,were it to have happened that way. The point about the phone calls is that Jeremy wanted to plant the idea in the Police's heads that Sheila was the killer,and at that time in the morning when people would not be so aware and caught off guard this is what happened.

It's my theory that Jeremy hired a hitman and the phone call from White House Farm to Jeremy's cottage in Goldhanger was the signal that the operation had been carried out. In Julie Mugford's statement to Stan Jones she says that Jeremy is told in this phone call that all had gone well,except that Ralph had put up more of a struggle than he thought. This phone call from White House Farm would also serve as a record that a call had been made from that location to Goldhanger if the Police checked,without them knowing whether it had come from Nevill or not.

The wetsuit theory was just one of the RWB  crackpot ideas. I know where the wetsuit is now. It was I believe examined by the police? And there was nothing suspicious about it at all. But of course one of the policemen still tried to insinuate that Jeremy did the murders by suggesting that when he turned up with the police the morning of the murders that he was wearing rather a lot of clothing was that time of year.

[susan]

Grahame  how was the amount of clothes Jeremy was wearing relevant to the murders.  Grahame do you happen to know if any of the extended family were privately educated or not?

[lookout]

I don't see Jeremy cycling back to his cottage in a wetsuit either,although it's worth remembering that he did spend time in New Zealand and Australia wearing one so he did have one in his possession. However he just doesn't have time to clean up and hide the bloodstained clothing,were it to have happened that way. The point about the phone calls is that Jeremy wanted to plant the idea in the Police's heads that Sheila was the killer,and at that time in the morning when people would not be so aware and caught off guard this is what happened.

It's my theory that Jeremy hired a hitman and the phone call from White House Farm to Jeremy's cottage in Goldhanger was the signal that the operation had been carried out. In Julie Mugford's statement to Stan Jones she says that Jeremy is told in this phone call that all had gone well,except that Ralph had put up more of a struggle than he thought. This phone call from White House Farm would also serve as a record that a call had been made from that location to Goldhanger if the Police checked,without them knowing whether it had come from Nevill or not.

Hi Steve,,,if it's your belief that a hitman was involved,,,there has to be a large sum of money taken from someones' account,,,as either a transfer of cash or a withdrawal. I'm sure that theory would have been well checked on account of JM having made that suggestion in one of her statements. It was false,btw.