Television documentary material

[Sparkfilms]

I'm not sure if Jeremy has anyone in mind to produce a possible case documentary in the future.

I worked alongside Darlow Smithson a couple of years ago on the Channel 4 docu 'Killer in a Small Town' ( Suffolk Serial Murders ). Darlow Smithson are a leading television / film production company in the UK ( though recently absorbed into the Endemol empire ).

I feel the power of television and a 75 / 90 minute production could make a very big difference as things stand.

John Smithson is the man to contact via Endemol / Darlow.

If anyone could do this case justice and give the British public an up to date overview of proceedings ( present and past ) then these guys should certainly be considered.

For all we know, public opinion may even influence the CCRC.

Just a thought.

[andrea]

have you been intouch with them and told them of this case,or the mysteries that surround it?

[Sparkfilms]

Hello Andrea,

No, but if anyone contacted me from Jeremy's camp with a view to pitching a short synopsis to Darlow or anyone else I would be quite prepared to assist.

I should imagine though that Jeremy may well be up to pace with ideas / contacts of this nature.

The other possibility, and I'm not sure if anyone has ever considered this in the past, is a feature film.

There have been 3 feature films based on the Rettendon Murders here in Essex that give variations on a theme. I should also add that convicted Micky Steele and Jack Wombes protested their innocence in these murders.

I see a little common ground with these two cases, the undercurrent of the Essex drug scene appears to connect some of the more radical views. Both of the cases appear to be linked by the light aircraft drops into lit up landing sites at night - that is, if the local folklore around Tollesbury is to be believed.

Wasn't there a programme about White House Farm some years back?

If so, perhaps someone could let me know what it was called.

[Sparkfilms]

Something else if I may, a full re-construction with the same rifle / ammo based on the shell drop positions, number of shots into victims, location of rooms, bodies etc could help determine how and who was most likely responsible.

There are signs of frenzied killings here, which just tips the scales towards Shelia in my view.

Not to mention the kitchen situation with Neville.

I listened to Stan Jones on Essex radio - he didn't really convince me.

How do we know that in a violent and manic rage Shelia wasn't capable of inflicting those wounds on Neville? And how do we know that she didn't cleanse her body before turning the gun on herself?

A reconstruction would have to show both options, ie. a Jeremy Bamber version, and a Shelia Caffell version.

A lot was made by Stan Jones about the way Jeremy Bamber acted after the killings, as far as I am concerned, this meant nothing.

[andrea]

i agree,, you cant make a case of how someone grieves after their family have been wiped out, jeremy was only a young lad at the time.

[Kaldin]

i agree,, you cant make a case of how someone grieves after their family have been wiped out, jeremy was only a young lad at the time.

Hardly a young lad - he was 24.

[Kaldin]

Something else if I may, a full re-construction with the same rifle / ammo based on the shell drop positions, number of shots into victims, location of rooms, bodies etc could help determine how and who was most likely responsible.

There are signs of frenzied killings here, which just tips the scales towards Shelia in my view.

Not to mention the kitchen situation with Neville.

I listened to Stan Jones on Essex radio - he didn't really convince me.

How do we know that in a violent and manic rage Shelia wasn't capable of inflicting those wounds on Neville? And how do we know that she didn't cleanse her body before turning the gun on herself?

A reconstruction would have to show both options, ie. a Jeremy Bamber version, and a Shelia Caffell version.

A lot was made by Stan Jones about the way Jeremy Bamber acted after the killings, as far as I am concerned, this meant nothing.

Stan Jones was rather contradictory. On the one hand he said that Jeremy was acting and pretending to be upset, and on the other hand he said that Jeremy offered a fry up for breakfast.

I agree that you can't really tell from the way Jeremy behaved.

[Sparkfilms]

Thanx Sarann, I just checked that out, very interesting.

Does Mike reside in Bolton?

This forum is a great way of finding stuff out at high speed!

[Sparkfilms]

Stan Jones gave the impression of a local bobby on a bycycle when he stated in the BBC Essex interview...

'Jeremy Bamber could have been convicted on Julie Mugford's evidence alone'

Imagine that. 33 times to get her story straight.

Was Jeremy Bamber actually convicted on no hard evidence at all?

[Jackiepreece]

If a film or documentary were to be made then it would be interesting to bring up the jury as a 10-2 majority some of the jurors must have been on the edge guilty or not guilty and I bet some of them are not happy with the withholding of evidence. I expect a lot of them even read this forum I would.  No body would like to think they put an innocent man in jail.  I believe if any of them spoke up it would go a long way to getting Jeremy out of prison. Your. Thoughts please

[Kaldin]

If a film or documentary were to be made then it would be interesting to bring up the jury as a 10-2 majority some of the jurors must have been on the edge guilty or not guilty and I bet some of them are not happy with the withholding of evidence. I expect a lot of them even read this forum I would.  No body would like to think they put an innocent man in jail.  I believe if any of them spoke up it would go a long way to getting Jeremy out of prison. Your. Thoughts please

Yes, it's a pity that juries don't tend to tell anyone why they reached the decision they did in this country. Obviously, two of them either thought he didn't do it, or they couldn't decide.

[Jackiepreece]

I was on jury service for a murder trial at Chelmsford crown court and I was in the minority wanting to plead not guilty and even felt slightly bullied by other jury members so if the case I was on came up as maybe a miscarriage of justice I would definitely want to have my say.  I wonder if the jurors in this case think they could get in trouble for making it public that they could have made a mistake

[Kaldin]

I was on jury service for a murder trial at Chelmsford crown court and I was in the minority wanting to plead not guilty and even felt slightly bullied by other jury members so if the case I was on came up as maybe a miscarriage of justice I would definitely want to have my say.  I wonder if the jurors in this case think they could get in trouble for making it public that they could have made a mistake

Yes - they must read about it. I would if I had been on that jury.

[Jackiepreece]

If only we could get them to speak up even anonomously

[Kaldin]

If only we could get them to speak up even anonomously

Yes - that would be really good. Are juries told not to discuss the case afterwards?