telephone logs.

[mike tesko]

The other glaring feature of this matter, is that there is no mention in the court transcript, or in the appeal judgement (2002) of any comparison between the contents of logs 3:26am and 3:36am? If both logs had been present during the trial, how could the defence not have noticed all those glaring inconsistencies, and glaring contradictory features, and not raise them before judge and jury? It did not happen because both logs were not disclosed at the same time, and this was done deliberately so as not to alert the defence to the fact that the police received information from another source prior to Jeremy's call to PC West at 3:36am...

If both logs had been disclosed the trial judge would have been privy to them, and he would have been duty bound to bring these conflicting discrepancies to the attention of counsel for the defence and prosecution, and try to ensure that the jury were made aware of these discrepancies - this did not happen because both logs did not get disclosed to the defence prior to the commencement of the trial in October 1986. Similarly, this does not appear to have happened at all during the 2002 appeal, which is even more alarming...

[mike tesko]

Will you?

I can't upload anything at the moment for technical reasons....

[vidvic]

If both logs had been disclosed the trial judge would have been privy to them, and he would have been duty bound to bring these conflicting discrepancies to the attention of counsel for the defence and prosecution, and try to ensure that the jury were made aware of these discrepancies - this did not happen because both logs did not get disclosed to the defence prior to the commencement of the trial in October 1986. Similarly, this does not appear to have happened at all during the 2002 appeal, which is even more alarming...

Why does the 'Ralph' telephone log have the Chelmsford court stamp on it, if it wasn't available to the defence?

[Neil]

I can't upload anything at the moment for technical reasons....

Fair enough.  Thank you.

[vidvic]

You haven't got a fucking clue you have you, the original statements made by these police officers, and any other witness who testifies in the case, would be kept on the court file, and bear the official court stamp - which is why I know the log (3:36am) was never an exhibit during the trial because the official court stamp for Chelmsford CC is absent, and not present on any copy of the same...

Version I've just looked at has court stamp, but version you placed on this site looks to have had it photoshopped out???

[Neil]

Version I've just looked at has court stamp, but version you placed on this site looks to have had it photoshopped out???

Are you able to post this on here?

[-Harters-]

You haven't got a fucking clue you have you, the original statements made by these police officers, and any other witness who testifies in the case, would be kept on the court file, and bear the official court stamp - which is why I know the log (3:36am) was never an exhibit during the trial because the official court stamp for Chelmsford CC is absent, and not present on any copy of the same...

Rubbish, just because you haven't posted something it does not mean that it doesn't exit.

West refers to his log at trial, he is handed a copy of it in front of the entire court. It isn't even an argument, well not a very sensible one.

There isn't any witness statements on the forum from the first officets to attend the scene, are you suggesting the they are being withheld from the defence?

[mike tesko]

Rubbish, just because you haven't posted something it does not mean that it doesn't exit.

West refers to his log at trial, he is handed a copy of it in front of the entire court. It isn't even an argument, well not a very sensible one.

There isn't any witness statements on the forum from the first officets to attend the scene, are you suggesting the they are being withheld from the defence?

Who made those statements for those police officers, have you got any idea?

[mike tesko]

Fair enough.  Thank you.

But I could send you a copy of it tomorrow with your permission to your email address...

[vidvic]

Are you able to post this on here?

I'm working off my iPhone so can't put it up, but if you google Ralph phone call to police, then look at either daily mirror story or Wikipedia item on Jeremy bamber, you'll see the log, with the Chelmsford crown court stamp on the left hand side, half way down. Has a reference number too.

[mike tesko]

Did someone else other than PC West pass information at 3:26am, to Malcolm Bonnet relating to the call made by Ralph Bamber, and is this why PC West continues to maintain that he contacted Bonnet after Jeremy called him at 3:36am, and has West changed the timing of the call to 3:36am, to try and deflect attention away from the first part of the message (3:26am) "Daughter has got one of my guns"?

[vidvic]

Show us the phone bills.....the itemised ones you have....

[mike tesko]

I'm working off my iPhone so can't put it up, but if you google Ralph phone call to police, then look at either daily mirror story or Wikipedia item on Jeremy bamber, you'll see the log, with the Chelmsford crown court stamp on the left hand side, half way down. Has a reference number too.

Wrong phone log (3:26am) - other log (3:36am) does not have a court stamp on it...

[Neil]

I'm working off my iPhone so can't put it up, but if you google Ralph phone call to police, then look at either daily mirror story or Wikipedia item on Jeremy bamber, you'll see the log, with the Chelmsford crown court stamp on the left hand side, half way down. Has a reference number too.

Great. Thank you

[Neil]

But I could send you a copy of it tomorrow with your permission to your email address...

I would very much appreciate that.  Thank you