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« Reply #480 on: August 01, 2012, 04:17:PM »
I would have told them to fuck off!!!

Better still, I would have told them to ask his ex wife Lois, who gave evidence against him, to take one. Lois told the papers that he, Sion, was violent and that he once slapped her so hard that she suffered a perforated eardrum for which she needed hospital treatment. Don't need a lie detecter test for that one though!
When the police checked her medical history, they found that she had never at any time been treated for that condition.

Lois destroyed Sion's alibi when she told the police her daughters Annie and Charlotte had changed their story and then gained the support of a psychologist to prevent the defence from interviewing them. When the girls were, finally, interviewed by Kent police four years later, they denied ever having changed their story and stood by their original accounts given in taped interviews. Naturally, Lois's daughters would not have been willing to testify against their mother, so her good reputation as a truthful witness remains intact at least where the popular press is concerned.

The Jenkins case, the Amanda Knox case and the Bamber case are similar in that in all three the tabloid mentality has dominated. There has been in all three a big difference between popular opinion and informed opinion.

Fantastic post! Totally agree!!

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« Reply #481 on: August 01, 2012, 09:32:PM »
what really really annoys me with the sun is they demand people take thse tests call them cowards if they wont.

but then if they take the test and pass the sun still trys to say there guilty anyway.

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« Reply #482 on: August 02, 2012, 04:30:AM »
Martin , i do not know too much about the case , did you work on it ? If what you say is true , i think in all fairness his wife should have been asked to take one and her response placed next to the response of SJ , i agree with you regarding the press and the case's you mention !!

Jon

I became particularly interested in the case when it occurred to me that the idea of his guilt was just absurd. His two eldest daughters both say that Billie-Jo was alive when the three of them left the house. The CPS originally did not want to prosecute because they accepted that the evidence of his daughters gave him a solid alibi. He only ended up being charged because his wife Lois told the police that Annie and Lottie had in effect lied in their interviews, but had, since then, told the real truth to her. An alternative suggested was that Sion had somehow planted false memories in their minds. It was said that Annie had had her thoughts “reconstructed” by Sion.

My opinion as to Lois’s motivation basically follows the position of Sion’s defence.

The police convince Lois that Sion is guilty on the basis of the bloodspots found on his fleece.

Understandably she does not want him back in the house and very early on makes the decision to divorce him.

She knows that if she divorces him he will want access.

She wants him out of her life altogether.

So she lies to get him put away.

I’ve tried to get a lot into a small space. If you want the full story from the defence's point of view read the book “ The Murder of Billie-Jo”  by Sion Jenkins and Bob Woffinden. 
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« Reply #483 on: August 02, 2012, 01:28:PM »
there is a thread on the jenkins cae in the other cases section no ones posted for a while but i think its still there.

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« Reply #484 on: August 02, 2012, 04:57:PM »
Pass or fail the polygraph test has had little impact on the status of JB little if anything was gained, perhaps his wish to take such a test shows co operation , if he was asked and declined such a test that may be a different matter but only if at the time such tests held legal ground, but to this very day at 4.55pm i would trust what jeremy said or his answers than any living politician anytime, if they were given such a test , and if you are wanting a reason lets start with the expenses scandal.

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« Reply #485 on: August 02, 2012, 05:12:PM »
Pass or fail the polygraph test has had little impact on the status of JB little if anything was gained, perhaps his wish to take such a test shows co operation , if he was asked and declined such a test that may be a different matter but only if at the time such tests held legal ground, but to this very day at 4.55pm i would trust what jeremy said or his answers than any living politician anytime, if they were given such a test , and if you are wanting a reason lets start with the expenses scandal.


Nice one,Mertol. Ha.!

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #486 on: August 04, 2012, 12:58:PM »
Unfortunately with these polygraph tests, for those individuals who have been protesting their innocence will be damned if they do, damned if they don't. 

With the slating of positive results from various quarters, after giving this much thought, I don't think I would hold it against anyone if they did not request to take one, or refused when asked to take one.

Is it not the case that these tests have more chance of failing an innocent person than successfully supporting a guilty persons truth?

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« Reply #487 on: August 04, 2012, 01:04:PM »
well the sun demanded crtan people take lie detectors like sion jenkins and nick rose then they rubbished the results when colin stag passed they rubbished the results when luke and corrine mitchell passed now they cant have it both ways.

i think an open challenge for certan journlists to take one is long overdue.

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« Reply #488 on: August 04, 2012, 01:30:PM »
I'll get shot down in flames for this.... but on the odd occasion I get drawn in to watching JK  :-[  people who seem relaxed / confident about a lie detector test seem to pass them (tends to be where partner is insecure and has accused them of cheating).  Those who appear less confident (tends to also be where partner has accused them of cheating) seem to fail them.  The ones who fail then usually cough up, which is a bit humiliating because clearly what they have done is to try and wing the lie detector test, which if they had have succeeded in doing, they simply would not have coughed up.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #489 on: August 04, 2012, 01:42:PM »
Hi Roch  hope for your sake bob is not on line I think he has a very low opinion of JK. :) ;) ;)

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« Reply #490 on: August 04, 2012, 02:35:PM »
Hi Roch  hope for your sake bob is not on line I think he has a very low opinion of JK. :) ;) ;)

bob will have my guts for garters susan.  I do like his percentage though (under his name).

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #491 on: August 04, 2012, 02:56:PM »
Who is JK? Please forgive me, I'm a tad thick today and don't seem to be able to focus. Never mind a tetley will sort me out... :o :o :o :P

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« Reply #492 on: August 04, 2012, 03:03:PM »
I'll get shot down in flames for this.... but on the odd occasion I get drawn in to watching JK  :-[  people who seem relaxed / confident about a lie detector test seem to pass them (tends to be where partner is insecure and has accused them of cheating).  Those who appear less confident (tends to also be where partner has accused them of cheating) seem to fail them.  The ones who fail then usually cough up, which is a bit humiliating because clearly what they have done is to try and wing the lie detector test, which if they had have succeeded in doing, they simply would not have coughed up.

Don't shoot me down in flames

ive never heard any of them complain that the test was wrong,

but then again i wonder all those guests are real.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #493 on: August 04, 2012, 03:20:PM »
Who is JK? Please forgive me, I'm a tad thick today and don't seem to be able to focus. Never mind a tetley will sort me out... :o :o :o :P

Jeremy Vile Kyle
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« Reply #494 on: August 04, 2012, 03:58:PM »
naughty Bridget  alot of my friends may go on that show it is based in the North of England you may see me and Patti on the show at sometime :) ;) ;)