Polygraph Testing

[susan]

Hi Patti  thanks for the information on the polygraph testing seems quite complex to me but you would think these experts would know that if you put a drawing pin in your shoe you can pass the test.  Maybe they check your shoes out before the test

[Caroline R]

Hi Patti  thanks for the information on the polygraph testing seems quite complex to me but you would think these experts would know that if you put a drawing pin in your shoe you can pass the test.  Maybe they check your shoes out before the test

I would imagine that it is harder to obatin a drawing pin in prison than it is to pass the test without it! 

[susan]

Hi Caroline R  Good thinking never thought where one could find a drawing pin

[nugnug]

if it was that easy why dident adrion prout do it why dident he just put a drawing pin in his shoe.

[susan]

Quite right nugnug he could have put a drawing pin in each shoe and passed the polygraph test 

[nugnug]

i mean a prison that sort of knowledge would get around.

[Caroline R]

I really can't understand why Jeremy took this test.  Nobody claims it to be 100 per cent accurate, so imagine if it had concluded that he was lying!  Coupled with the fact that no court in the land would ever admit such evidence, it seemed unnessasarily risky.

Not if you KNOw you're innocent. 

[lookout]

I'm almost certain that had Jeremy committed the crimes,,,he'd have hanged himself years ago at the prospect of him spending the rest of his life,to his dying days,in prison.

He knows,himself,that he didn't commit any murders,,,and this is why he has been pleading his innocence since day one.

[Caroline R]

I'm almost certain that had Jeremy committed the crimes,,,he'd have hanged himself years ago at the prospect of him spending the rest of his life,to his dying days,in prison.

He knows,himself,that he didn't commit any murders,,,and this is why he has been pleading his innocence since day one.

I totally agree and if he has pleaded guilty, he would have been eligible for parole by now. Had he been the calculating psycho that some of the press have described, this would have been the easiest option. 'Some' (not all) psychopaths are able to pass the polygraph test, however, it's not so much the test that I find convincing, it's the fact that he agreed to take it - had he failed, it would have been game over. Strange how in the past, the authorities and the media make a big deal when someone fails, but passing gets hardly a mention and makes no difference to the chances of an appeal!

[-Harters-]

I totally agree and if he has pleaded guilty, he would have been eligible for parole by now. ....................................

That's actually not true, the "Whole Life Tariff" was not subsequently placed upon him because he pleaded innocent, it was the premeditation. planning and nature of the crime which is the reason for his "Whole Life Tariff".

Had he pleaded guilty, then the situation regarding his sentence would not be different.

[mertol22]

Even if Jeremy had failed the polygraph test , it would have made no difference to his situation as he was already serving his full life term, however i do feel if he had pleaded guilty at his trial , other than the life term i think no further term would have been placed on him, if you believe the press you will believe anything , a vile corrupt system devoid of purpose, how different it would be if you or i were serving 26 years plus for crimes you say you did not do, this country is not as free as you think there is no democracy or fairness there never has been, with so much evidence destroyed it makes jb s fight much harder, all the destroyed evidence can never come back.

[Caroline R]

That's actually not true, the "Whole Life Tariff" was not subsequently placed upon him because he pleaded innocent, it was the premeditation. planning and nature of the crime which is the reason for his "Whole Life Tariff".

Had he pleaded guilty, then the situation regarding his sentence would not be different.

I don't agree! The state does not look favourably on prisoners who don't admit guilt and show remorse. I firmly believe that had JB pleaded guilty, he would never have received the whole life tarriff in the first place. As this didn't happen, we will never know!!

[Caroline R]

Even if Jeremy had failed the polygraph test , it would have made no difference to his situation as he was already serving his full life term.

It wouldn't change his situation but it would obviously affected it! Although people say they don't hold much faith in the polygraph test, had he failed the findings would most certainly have influenced people's perceptions of guilty or innocent, making it a whole lot more difficult to win any future appeal!

[-Harters-]

I don't agree! The state does not look favourably on prisoners who don't admit guilt and show remorse. I firmly believe that had JB pleaded guilty, he would never have received the whole life tarriff in the first place. As this didn't happen, we will never know!!

You don't have to agree, but pleading guilty or innocent is not a consideration that can be taken into account whilst applying the tariff.

[susan]

Hi Caroline R  I thought the whole life tarriff was imposed by that dreadful Michael Howard because Jeremy was not admitting to the murders therefore showing no remorse.  I thought his sentence was a minimun of 25 years.