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Offline Nuala

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It's not 'running' though. And people have said it looks wet, it could be the flash. Don't forget we're looking at scans on a PC screen.


Now that is an excellent point. The poor resolution of the photos is a serious issue here too. So I can see where you're coming from.

However, as the original, high resolution photos clarified issues like this one in favour of the prosecution, why were a substantial number of these withheld?

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It's not 'running' though. And people have said it looks wet, it could be the flash. Don't forget we're looking at scans on a PC screen.
You cannot get away from it. That blood looks wet to most people who look at it. Blood goes dull when dried and flattens out.

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You cannot get away from it. That blood looks wet to most people who look at it. Blood goes dull when dried and flattens out.

The blood doesn't look wet to me it looks shiny.

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The blood doesn't look wet to me it looks shiny.


It looks wet to me.

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The blood doesn't look wet to me it looks shiny.
Well if it was dry it would look flat.

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Well if it was dry it would look flat.

I agree, it does look thick.
But I read somewhere when she was moved, blood seeped from her mouth or her nose.

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Ralphs blood was wet.

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The only ones who were shot accurately were the twins and Sheila. The twins were probably asleep. And Sheila was not moving, but very still and obviously not asleep, unless she was in the habit of sleeping on the floor. Both June and Ralph were moving about which explains the many shots to their bodies.
But Sheila was lying still. Now you must ask yourself, why was that. Can you REALLY believe that a  person, any person would lie still and calmly let someone shoot them? Of course not. It is bordering on the ridiculous to even suggest it. So what do some do? They have to speculate and make up silly stories, like "she was drugged" or "she was scared stiff". Just think of it a moment. Her children had been killed. Her parents had been murdered. Can you honestly believe that she would submit to someone who told her to lie down and shoot herself? It is a silly scenario. It is much more logical to believe that she shot herself. The simplest explanation is generally the right one.

Brilliant post Grahame, pure logic.  :) :) :)

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Hi Grahame   just read your posts and it makes total sense and makes all the other theories seem quite ridiculous.

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Brilliant post Grahame, pure logic.  :) :) :)


I also go along with that too,Grahame.
In March 1985 when Sheila was admitted to St Andrews Hospital,she'd suffered a severe mental breakdown.   A friend was left traumatised after one of Sheila's violent outbursts.
Sheila had been taking cocaine quite frequently that year. She was released from hospital after just 3 weeks and her release raised concerns over the idea that Sheila was capable of murdering her children and had mentioned having suicidal thoughts.

I would be interested in seeing her medical records from this particular time in her life,,,and would also be interested to see who'd voiced their concerns too.

Her medication was powerful stuff,and coupled with cannabis as well as cocaine,makes for a very volatile cocktail. If anyone reads about schizophrenia and cannabis,,it'll give you the clear answer as to who was responsible for the murders and also for Sheila's own suicide.

Her medication too,is worth reading about,,,its effects and what the results are if missed or suddenly reduced ( as Dr Ferguson had done,,and is a very dangerous move as it should be reduced gradually )
Anafranil.
Haloperidol.
Procyclidine.

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Ralphs blood was wet.

I agree with this. It'd be appropriate to compare the 'wet blood' hi-resolution pictures of Sheila with similarly hi-resolution pictures of the other victims in order to understand whether Sheila's blood was 'wetter' than the others.

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The only ones who were shot accurately were the twins and Sheila. The twins were probably asleep. And Sheila was not moving, but very still and obviously not asleep, unless she was in the habit of sleeping on the floor. Both June and Ralph were moving about which explains the many shots to their bodies.
But Sheila was lying still. Now you must ask yourself, why was that. Can you REALLY believe that a  person, any person would lie still and calmly let someone shoot them? Of course not. It is bordering on the ridiculous to even suggest it. So what do some do? They have to speculate and make up silly stories, like "she was drugged" or "she was scared stiff". Just think of it a moment. Her children had been killed. Her parents had been murdered. Can you honestly believe that she would submit to someone who told her to lie down and shoot herself? It is a silly scenario. It is much more logical to believe that she shot herself. The simplest explanation is generally the right one.

Might this suggest that an altercation between Neville and June, over what?, and which may or not have included a gun, is a totally separate incident from that between Sheila and her boys?

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Hi Grahame   just read your posts and it makes total sense and makes all the other theories seem quite ridiculous.


Hi Susan,,,when you understand mental illness,,there's no theory about the case. It's cut and dried.
Cannabis alone taken over a long period can,and does have devastating effects on the brain on its own,without other medication. Given Sheila's state of mind,she probably " heard voices " in her head,,,which does happen,urging her on to carry out certain acts of violence. Her thoughts too were very irrational, about her twins,regarding incestuous acts.
Sheila was very very sick,a victim herself of a very cruel illness.

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Might this suggest that an altercation between Neville and June, over what?, and which may or not have included a gun, is a totally separate incident from that between Sheila and her boys?


Hi April,,whichever way you look at this case,,nobody else was involved.

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The blood doesn't look wet to me it looks shiny.


Mat,,blood from anyone whose been dead for over two hours doesn't look wet,,nor shiny,,for obvious reasons. It also has a " browny hue " as well,,,not a fresh red colour.