The silencer, hand swab, and scratch marks on the aga, Conspiracy...

[bloggs and son]

I agree with this greatly. Sheila, although I believe innocent of murder, was a troubled soul and certianly no angel.

I see Mat as a person with common sense.

[-Harters-]

I agree with this greatly. Sheila, although I believe innocent of murder, was a troubled soul and certianly no angel.

Nobody is suggesting she was.

[guest154]

Nobody is suggesting she was.

Not now, but a lot of the innocent members tend to get/give the impression that she didn't have her own problems, I'm sure she did. But she isn't a killer.

[Patti]

She's only going by the words of one of the family who themselves hadn't seen Sheila for some time. That person who originally said that was only guessing herself. Don't forget that the doctor had just halved her medication. I have seen my friend's boy (who is a schizophrenic) when the doctor had just tried halving his medication. He went absolutely crazy and picked a fight with his own father. It took a long time to get him under control.
Really some people who don't think that Sheila was responsible seem to build her up to be some kind of sweet harmless angel, in spite of testimonies from both Colin and Freddy to the contrary. I read some of the cheesy stuff written on here about her by some and nearly gag. Nobody's that innocent and couple that with her illness then at times it is very likely that she behaved like a devil. That is not putting Sheila down. It is looking at human nature with pure common sense and human nature twisted by her acute schizophrenia.

Well said Grahame.  In all fairness I don't think the family new much about Sheila after she left home at the age of 17 and, rarely saw her, for she lived in London. 

Colin reveals such a lot doesn't he Grahame.  I wonder what happened to Freddie? 

[maggie]

Not now, but a lot of the innocent members tend to get/give the impression that she didn't have her own problems, I'm sure she did. But she isn't a killer.

How do you know that mat. Thats a very positive statement.

[Nuala]

How do you know that mat. Thats a very positive statement.

It's misleading, Mags, many of the JB is innocents have great sympathy for Sheila and don't condemn her in any way.

[guest154]

How do you know that mat. Thats a very positive statement.

Just a belief from what I've seen some people say. I was just agreeing with Grahame's post.

[Patti]

Not now, but a lot of the innocent members tend to get/give the impression that she didn't have her own problems, I'm sure she did. But she isn't a killer.

No it doesn't mat. Just like it doesn't make JB a killer, because he knew how to get into WHF.

If you look at from a criminologists' point of view and how one would profile all the family..Sheila would be the main suspect.  It had to be someone completely insane to have committed those murders....

If you stood June up from her place of death and stood Shelia up, they would be facing each other at the bottom of the bed.....If you also look at the back spatter on the floor it all goes Sheila's way....

Where is Bridget? lol 

[Nuala]

No it doesn't mat. Just like it doesn't make JB a killer, because he knew how to get into WHF.

If you look at from a criminologists' point of view and how one would profile all the family..Sheila would be the main suspect.  It had to be someone completely insane to have committed those murders....

If you stood June up from her place of death and stood Shelia up, they would be facing each other at the bottom of the bed.....If you also look at the back spatter on the floor it all goes Sheila's way....

Where is Bridget? lol 

Good points, Patti

[guest154]

No it doesn't mat. Just like it doesn't make JB a killer, because he knew how to get into WHF.

If you look at from a criminologists' point of view and how one would profile all the family..Sheila would be the main suspect.  It had to be someone completely insane to have committed those murders....

If you stood June up from her place of death and stood Shelia up, they would be facing each other at the bottom of the bed.....If you also look at the back spatter on the floor it all goes Sheila's way....

Where is Bridget? lol 

Yes, with Sheila's medical history it wouldn't be hard to convince people she was guilty.

[Bridget]

Hi Bridget. That is an assumption by yourself and others that she was unfamiliar with guns and that she may have been unlikely to have chosen one....It is not unlikely at all....like I have said she was brought up with guns, it more likely than unlikely that she would be able to use a gun.

I don't think I am twisting words Bridget, I am merely pointing out that there is another possibility, which can't be disregarded....

How do you know she had co-ordination difficulties at that time of the murders?   

I think if a member of my family was accused of going beserk with a gun I would be entitled to have an opinion over whether that was likely, based on my experience of their experience of guns. This family did no different.

I didn't say you were twisting words, or if I did I didn't mean to. What I meant was that you were twisting the theory into something which it never was, i.e. that it would have been impossible for Sheila to have used the gun.

I read Ann Eaton's comment regarding her co-ordination as being general, not specific to a particular time.

Is your day getting any better yet? 

[Patti]

Good points, Patti

Something else I noticed and that there were no blood from the wound of JB from the shot between her eyes on the floor.  Yet there is a blood stain on the door from her shoulder.....I can't quite work that out, because blood would shoot out profusely from a head wound. Unless the blood on her nightie was still wet when she fell back....

[Nuala]

Something else I noticed and that there were no blood from the wound of JB from the shot between her eyes on the floor.  Yet there is a blood stain on the door from her shoulder.....I can't quite work that out, because blood would shoot out profusely from a head wound. Unless the blood on her nightie was still wet when she fell back....

Another good point. I'm trying to find your post that mentions Sheila's alleged lack of coordination, Patti..

[Bridget]

No it doesn't mat. Just like it doesn't make JB a killer, because he knew how to get into WHF.

If you look at from a criminologists' point of view and how one would profile all the family..Sheila would be the main suspect.  It had to be someone completely insane to have committed those murders....

If you stood June up from her place of death and stood Shelia up, they would be facing each other at the bottom of the bed.....If you also look at the back spatter on the floor it all goes Sheila's way....

Where is Bridget? lol 

Bridget is here, just trying to work out where June and Sheila standing facing each other takes us...

[Patti]

I think if a member of my family was accused of going beserk with a gun I would be entitled to have an opinion over whether that was likely, based on my experience of their experience of guns. This family did no different.

I didn't say you were twisting words, or if I did I didn't mean to. What I meant was that you were twisting the theory into something which it never was, i.e. that it would have been impossible for Sheila to have used the gun.

I read Ann Eaton's comment regarding her co-ordination as being general, not specific to a particular time.

Is your day getting any better yet? 

No, it is not getting better and who invited you here....hahahahah

Sheila, was at boarding school, she also left home at the age of 17....The extended family did not know her well....they hardly saw her.  You have no argument Bridget, your losing it.....hahahaha