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Offline lookout

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Don't worry, I'm just easily amused.  ;)

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ComeOnEngland  never mind as you say as I have got to the stage I don,t know anymore what anyone is suggesting put it down to me having a bad day ;) ;)

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ComeOnEngland  never mind as you say as I have got to the stage I don,t know anymore what anyone is suggesting put it down to me having a bad day ;) ;)

Now I'm feeling left out, why can't I be the one having a bad day?  ;)

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ComeOnEngland  I think you are too sensible and cheerful to have a bad day ;) ;) ;)

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ComeOnEngland  I think you are too sensible and cheerful to have a bad day ;) ;) ;)

Oh I have my moments, I can assure you.  :-[

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You can say that again,Hartley.

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ComeOnEngland  Hartley I have thought of a way that you too can have a bad day.  I can keep sending you my stupid silly irrelevant ridiculous waste of time posts which are responding to nothing anyone says and you will think Oh not her again ;) ;) ;)  I have only just realised you are Hartley how dumb is that :) :) :)

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ComeOnEngland  Hartley I have thought of a way that you too can have a bad day.  I can keep sending you my stupid silly irrelevant ridiculous waste of time posts which are responding to nothing anyone says and you will think Oh not her again ;) ;) ;)  I have only just realised you are Hartley how dumb is that :) :) :)
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I think you are twisting what was said about Sheila and guns. The point has never been that it was impossible for her to have used the gun. It was that she was unfamiliar with guns and therefore unlikely to have chosen to use one, and unlikely to have been able to use one so proficiently and without getting overpowered. Remember also that she is said to have had poor co-ordination, which would make loading the magazine and refitting it to the rifle more difficult for her than for you and I.

What does 'flick the recoil' mean?

Hi Bridget. That is an assumption by yourself and others that she was unfamiliar with guns and that she may have been unlikely to have chosen one....It is not unlikely at all....like I have said she was brought up with guns, it more likely than unlikely that she would be able to use a gun.

I don't think I am twisting words Bridget, I am merely pointing out that there is another possibility, which can't be disregarded....

How do you know she had co-ordination difficulties at that time of the murders?   :) :)


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ComeOnEngland  Hartley I have thought of a way that you too can have a bad day.  I can keep sending you my stupid silly irrelevant ridiculous waste of time posts which are responding to nothing anyone says and you will think Oh not her again ;) ;) ;)  I have only just realised you are Hartley how dumb is that :) :) :)

What are we agreeing to now?   ;D

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Sheila's mental health and it's possible affect on Sheila if she was responsible, is a very tricky subject really, even more so for me as it's one that I have absolutely no knowledge of, so I will not pretend to.

However, as far as I can see, there is nothing which indicates that her mental health had any effect on her actions that night. I understand that statistics, profiling and previous similar cases, may indicate a possibility that a certain action was caused by her illness, but it does not indicate that it did happen.

So with that in mind, we have to revert back to evidence, which is an ongoing endless debate, on this forum at least.

Although don't get me wrong, I do understand exactly where you are coming from and heck, you never know, you might be spot on, maybe that's exactly what did happen, but I also think that even if evidence did surface which indicates that Sheila was responsible, any theories about her mental health being the cause, would still remain just that, a theory, a good theory, maybe even a probable theory, but a theory none the less.

Obviously from the prosecution side of things, the mental health seed was sown by a guilty Jeremy trying to frame his adopted sister, as was his leaving a loaded rifle out in an easily accessible location. If that was the case then we don't know where the rifle was left at all, my personal opinion is that the whole rabbit shooting incident was made up.

I've rambled a bit there, but hopefully it still makes sense.  :-\

Hi Hartley, welcome back, I admire your post.

But, Is it not a theory that JB walked approximately 4 miles in a wetsuit, entered the house through a window, picked up the gun, murdered his family, made it look like his sister, faked a call to himself, got out through a window, grabbed his mother bike and peddled all the way home through the fields, got showered at home, rang the police at Whitham, rang JM and told her all went well, rang the police at Chelmsford saying he had a call from his father, met the police at WHF and,  was calm for 4 hours?

The other theory is...Sheila who had a mental condition, hated her mother, hated WHF, had been told by Colin that he had another woman, was told to take a holiday, was told she might be better living closer to home, picked up a gun in anger, shot her family, then killed herself.  Sorry for using her illness, but it has to be considered. I could go on but I find it unfair....... :) :) :) :)





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Hi Hartley, welcome back, I admire your post.

But, Is it not a theory that JB walked approximately 4 miles in a wetsuit, entered the house through a window, picked up the gun, murdered his family, made it look like his sister, faked a call to himself, got out through a window, grabbed his mother bike and peddled all the way home through the fields, got showered at home, rang the police at Whitham, rang JM and told her all went well, rang the police at Chelmsford saying he had a call from his father, met the police at WHF and,  was calm for 4 hours?

The other theory is...Sheila who had a mental condition, hated her mother, hated WHF, had been told by Colin that he had another woman, was told to take a holiday, was told she might be better living closer to home, picked up a gun in anger, shot her family, then killed herself.  Sorry for using her illness, but it has to be considered. I could go on but I find it unfair....... :) :) :) :)

Well that's the never ending debate I alluded to.  ;)

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ComeOnEngland  we are agreeing that on the whole my posts are a total waste of time and I have now realised you are Hartley bit slow but got it in the end. :)

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ComeOnEngland  we are agreeing that on the whole my posts are a total waste of time and I have now realised you are Hartley bit slow but got it in the end. :)

Hey Susan, You matter kiddo....Not sure what you are on about, come you Yorkshire lassie... :) :) :) ;D ;D