The silencer, hand swab, and scratch marks on the aga, Conspiracy...

[Patti]

However COLP was instructed by the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) to edit any evidence that came under their scrutiny which would incriminate police officers of Essex Police as to a finding that their initial investigation was tainted. Jeremy Bamber was not aware of this until recently.
3. This was due to the Dickinson enquiry (1985-86) and the fact that all evidence that came under scrutiny in that enquiry regarding police misconduct was placed under public interest immunity, (PII).

[guest154]

Thanks Mat. Any idea what "Missing schedules and files edited under PII" actually means, or what any of those references refer to?

At one time, yes. But right now I couldn't say what they were and be 100% sure.. but there were numerous meetings after the murders and the schedules that are missing pertain to them, the minutes of the meetings, what was said, who was present.
Some of the files that are posted openly have had parts taken out under PII too - which is what the editing under PII means.

Mike will be able to say what each number pertains to though - but it would be a lot of work.

[JackiePreece]

Bridget this is what you wrote


No I don't think so. In order for them to cover stuff up (if that's what is happening) then they must have a reason. I appreciate the fact that someone will say "we don't know what they're covering up since they're covering it up" but I just can't think of anything at all that it could be. Does that make sense? It did when I wrote it


Why were the real facts surrounding Julie Mugford covered up

[Bridget]

Bridget this is what you wrote


No I don't think so. In order for them to cover stuff up (if that's what is happening) then they must have a reason. I appreciate the fact that someone will say "we don't know what they're covering up since they're covering it up" but I just can't think of anything at all that it could be. Does that make sense? It did when I wrote it


Why were the real facts surrounding Julie Mugford covered up

I have no idea what 'real facts' you are referring to, hence my question to you, what was held under PII?

[JackiePreece]

Yes Mat very recently uncovered
Keep up

[-Harters-]

Bridget this is what you wrote


No I don't think so. In order for them to cover stuff up (if that's what is happening) then they must have a reason. I appreciate the fact that someone will say "we don't know what they're covering up since they're covering it up" but I just can't think of anything at all that it could be. Does that make sense? It did when I wrote it


Why were the real facts surrounding Julie Mugford covered up

I think that unless this 'new' evidence is able to be disclosed to the forum (pun intended), then I'm not sure it should be used to back up an argument. Having said that, I fully understand why the defence team might want to keep their cards hidden.

[guest154]

Yes Mat very recently uncovered
Keep up

I refuse to beleive you're close enough to the defence to know anything that isn't already known. the official campaign team have cut their contact with you - so the defence I don't believe tell you anything.

And any JM evidence would have been used in the CCRC appeals.

[JackiePreece]

Hartley which comment do you mean?
Can you remember the exact words?

Do you mean ' it stops now' ?

But it wouldn't would it, I am sure there will be more new evidence to start a new investigation

[Roch]

I have no idea what 'real facts' you are referring to, hence my question to you, what was held under PII?

CPS file on her.  And the fact she was arrested, prior to her supposedly having come forward to 'unburden' her self.  Some of this is from the 2011 lever arch files, I think.

[JackiePreece]

Thank you Rochy

[Bridget]

CPS file on her.  And the fact she was arrested, prior to her supposedly having come forward to 'unburden' her self.  Some of this is from the 2011 lever arch files, I think.

I haven't seen it Roch, unless you mean that letter that was published?

[Roch]

I refuse to beleive you're close enough to the defence to know anything that isn't already known. the official campaign team have cut their contact with you - so the defence I don't believe tell you anything.

And any JM evidence would have been used in the CCRC appeals.

Mat & jackie, civility between you is appreciated.

[guest154]

CPS file on her.  And the fact she was arrested, prior to her supposedly having come forward to 'unburden' her self.  Some of this is from the 2011 lever arch files, I think.

But that isn't new and the defence haven't attempted to use this becuase they know it wouldn't do them any good.

Mat & jackie, civility between you is appreciated.

Civility is fine. As long as it  is is comnig both ways.

[JackiePreece]

Mat please do not make out you know anything about my friendship with Simon McKay

[guest154]

Mat please do not make out you know anything about my friendship with Simon McKay

Oh, I'm not. I understand you're the reason he's working the Bamber case.