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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2012, 10:21:AM »
I am currently at RAF Camp, Upavon, Wiltshire, seeing informant on base...
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2012, 11:39:AM »
I am currently at RAF Camp, Upavon, Wiltshire, seeing informant on base...

Well done Mike. I hope it's a fruitful discussion.

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2012, 03:12:PM »
Well done Mike. I hope it's a fruitful discussion.

Yes...

I have been informed that COLP saw and took possession of the photographs of Sheila on the bed, along with many other pictures at the scene in the bedroom and kitchen, which were given to them by the Chief Constable. These had been kept at police headquarters in a top secret file to which no-one had access other than senior police officers engaged in the cover up surrounding Sheila's death in the bedroom?


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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2012, 05:12:PM »
Yes...

I have been informed that COLP saw and took possession of the photographs of Sheila on the bed, along with many other pictures at the scene in the bedroom and kitchen, which were given to them by the Chief Constable. These had been kept at police headquarters in a top secret file to which no-one had access other than senior police officers engaged in the cover up surrounding Sheila's death in the bedroom?

COLP discovered one photograph and missing negative which ACC Simpson retained and rarely used it in training lectures. The photo' in question was / is the one of Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her neck...
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2012, 07:04:PM »
COLP discovered one photograph and missing negative which ACC Simpson retained and rarely used it in training lectures. The photo' in question was / is the one of Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her neck...

COLP also took possession of a large numer of other photographs taken in connection with the training exercide carried out at the scene with the bodies of the victims still in situ...

Documents which form part of the COLP investigation confirm that there were a large number of photographs which they came into possession of which they simply did not copy - many of these showed the bodies of the victims in different positions / locations than those officially set as part of the prosecutions case. It is these photographs which Bambers current legal team would be advised to pursue and obtain. In particular, the one which shows Sheila on the bed with only one wound...
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2012, 07:21:PM »
COLP discovered one photograph and missing negative which ACC Simpson retained and rarely used it in training lectures. The photo' in question was / is the one of Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her neck...

Why on earth would Simpson want to use such a photo in lectures?

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2012, 07:28:PM »
Why on earth would Simpson want to use such a photo in lectures?

Wouldn't be great for the cover up, would it?
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2012, 07:32:PM »
Wouldn't be great for the cover up, would it?

I wouldn't have thought so, unless such lectures were made to a privileged and select ITK crowd?
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2012, 07:44:PM »
I wouldn't have thought so, unless such lectures were made to a privileged and select ITK crowd?

Is that likely? These were lectures afterall, not clandestine meetings.
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2012, 07:49:PM »
I wouldn't have thought so, unless such lectures were made to a privileged and select ITK crowd?

Could be a means of showing them what not to do!!!

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2012, 07:53:PM »
Could be a means of showing them what not to do!!!

In the hope that they won't blab?
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2012, 07:56:PM »
Why on earth would Simpson want to use such a photo in lectures?

Documentary evidence exists to confirm and prove this is what happened and took place...
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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #72 on: July 02, 2012, 07:59:PM »
Is that likely? These were lectures afterall, not clandestine meetings.

it depends on what Mike means by lectures.  I was thinking along the lines of Colonel Blenkinsopp from MI5 and other relevant notables in the audience?

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #73 on: July 02, 2012, 08:16:PM »
it depends on what Mike means by lectures.  I was thinking along the lines of Colonel Blenkinsopp from MI5 and other relevant notables in the audience?

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Re: Whereabouts...
« Reply #74 on: July 02, 2012, 08:21:PM »
Is that likely? These were lectures afterall, not clandestine meetings.

Aah...


Now we are getting somewhere - police actually took 581 photographs in connection with this investigation, each numbered 1 to 581, consecutively. These were kept under lock and key in ACC Peter Simpsons safe. A schedule relating to all these 581 photographs has never yet been disclosed, but they were all held under a top secret photographic album, which became known as THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM. This album was put together by SOC, and in the knowledge of DI "Ron" Cook, PC "David" Bird, DS Davidson, and DC Hammerlsey. Other officers who knew and had knowledge of its existence, were DCI "George" Harris, DCI "Taff" Jones, DCI "Terry" Gibbons, DCI Clarke, DCS Ainsley, PI "Bob" Miller, PI "Ivor" Montgomery, all the members of the TFG, and TSU officers who attended the scene, and the group of additional firearms officers who carried out the training exercise with the bodies of the victims still in situ, amongst others who were in on the cover up surrounding the circumstances of how Sheila had been shot and killed in the main bedroom...

Instead...

PC Bird produced a false schedule which suggested that the police had only taken 223 photographs in connection with the case - these 223 photographs were put into an album named THE MASTER COPY ALBUM. These were numbered 1 to 223 consecutively, designed to give the impression that these were all the pictures the police had taken in connection with the case, but at the scene and elsewhere...

The photographs of Sheila on the bed with one wound formed part of THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM. It was this album that Ewen Smith eventually obtained access to from Essex police, after I drew his attention to its existence. He was given access to it, on the proviso that he did not show its contents to anyone, or take copies of any of the pictures contained therein. 358 of the photographs contained in this album had never been disclosed to Jeremy or to his solicitors before the commencement of his trial in October 1986, or the 2002 appeal. If any of these previously undisclosed photographs had been made available by the time of the trial in 1986, the outcome and verdicts would almost certainly have been very much different, by virtue of the fact that it would become clear that police disturbed and stage managed the crime scenes in the kitchen and bedrooms, and blamed Jeremy for doing so during the trial. If any of these missing 358 pictures had been disclosed or known about, it would have been a piece of cake for the defence to prove the police stage managed Sheila's body on the bedroom floor after it had earlier been photographed on the bed...
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