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Offline JackiePreece

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #120 on: June 01, 2012, 11:25:AM »
I don't know, with the boys panic and revulsion at what he was doing maybe? Who knows what goes through the mind of a person doing that.


One thing is for sure that Jeremy had never shown any kind of violence to anybody before and its ludicrous to think he would even think of doing anything like this

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #121 on: June 01, 2012, 11:40:AM »

One thing is for sure that Jeremy had never shown any kind of violence to anybody before and its ludicrous to think he would even think of doing anything like this

He had the most charmed life ever and knew it, he told me enough times

He does not present with any of the kinds of traits linked with such a crime.  Dr. Vincent Egan has expressed so.  He has passed a lie detector.  DB didn't think he had the gumption to do it.  The pathologist didn't think he had done it.  Non material witnesses expressed concern to police that he wouldn't have done it.  basically, he didn't do it.

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« Reply #122 on: June 01, 2012, 11:49:AM »
Whatever the reason it still doesn't explain why the killer would use a silencer and then carefully put it back in the gun cupboard? A shotgun would wake everyone with the first shot. The use of a silencer reveals the intention of a killer to kill silently.

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« Reply #123 on: June 01, 2012, 11:54:AM »
Grahame my belief is that a silencer wasn't used at all. The " noise " from one of those rifles is minimal,like a cracker out of a Christmas cracker, so coupled with commotion that was going on,it wouldn't have been heard,,only initially before the family died. 

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« Reply #124 on: June 01, 2012, 11:56:AM »
Jeremys nature shines through, a Nancy boy, didn't like shooting, no history of violence and I bet they searched high and low, as you said Rochy, passing a lie detector test.

It's a joke watching people on here who want to try and match Jeremy fit the crime

He just doesnt
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« Reply #125 on: June 01, 2012, 12:02:PM »
A shotgun wasn't used because it wasn't a " planned killing ",,,but instead,,a very frenzied one which describes the mind of the  person who was doing the killing. 

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« Reply #126 on: June 01, 2012, 12:09:PM »
He does not present with any of the kinds of traits linked with such a crime.  Dr. Vincent Egan has expressed so.  He has passed a lie detector.  DB didn't think he had the gumption to do it.  The pathologist didn't think he had done it.  Non material witnesses expressed concern to police that he wouldn't have done it.  basically, he didn't do it.

Forgot to add, Taff Jones refused to prosecute him.  Kineally backed Taff Jones.  Has anyone ever considered that Taff was right?  The NDI result 22 years later, does not contradict Taff's decision.

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« Reply #127 on: June 01, 2012, 12:11:PM »
Grahame my belief is that a silencer wasn't used at all. The " noise " from one of those rifles is minimal,like a cracker out of a Christmas cracker, so coupled with commotion that was going on,it wouldn't have been heard,,only initially before the family died.
I think the silencer was red herring?

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« Reply #128 on: June 01, 2012, 12:19:PM »
I think the silencer was red herring?
Exactly, a red herring which enables various people to try and link Jeremy in, I still think it was most likely, a sucide and a domestic...personally, and everything else is either coincidental or manipulated.  imho
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #129 on: June 01, 2012, 12:25:PM »
Exactly, a red herring which enables various people to try and link Jeremy in, I still think it was most likely, a sucide and a domestic...personally, and everything else is either coincidental or manipulated.  imho
So, indesputably, if anyone entered in the middle of the night through a window, Crispy would have heard them and alerted the house.  It was a big house but dogs hear a pin drop, he would certainly have heard someone creeping up squeaky stairs.  Even if he didn't it would be too big a risk to take. So if  Jeremy planned a silent killing he would have made sure crispy was out of the way..........  surely.
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« Reply #130 on: June 01, 2012, 12:31:PM »
So, indesputably, if anyone entered in the middle of the night through a window, Crispy would have heard them and alerted the house.  It was a big house but dogs hear a pin drop, he would certainly have heard someone creeping up squeaky stairs.  Even if he didn't it would be too big a risk to take. So if  Jeremy planned a silent killing he would have made sure crispy was out of the way..........  surely.
Then again perhaps that is what happened? He alerted the whole house and foiled the killers plans? Just trying to see things from the other side.

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« Reply #131 on: June 01, 2012, 12:33:PM »
Maggie,,,Crispy would have known Jeremy,,so therefore wouldn't have barked. That was always supposing it had been Jeremy of course.

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« Reply #132 on: June 01, 2012, 12:36:PM »
Maggie,,,Crispy would have known Jeremy,,so therefore wouldn't have barked. That was always supposing it had been Jeremy of course.
But lookout if crispy was upstairs he wouldn't have known it was jeremy, also he didn't like Jeremy.......apparently.

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« Reply #133 on: June 01, 2012, 12:36:PM »
Maggie,,,Crispy would have known Jeremy,,so therefore wouldn't have barked. That was always supposing it had been Jeremy of course.
A good dog would know by your footsteps who you were.

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« Reply #134 on: June 01, 2012, 12:37:PM »
A good dog would know by your footsteps who you were.

Or your smell. Crispy probably wasn't that bright though.
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