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Offline Nuala

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 10:27:PM »
I started reading this yesterday and there is some very interesting dialogue in the first chapter. Some of the descriptions of JBs behaviour I have never read and it comes across as almost incriminating at times due to the fact that he goes from being overcome with emotion to seemingly fine. In general it has so far been intriguing


The Wilkes book in some ways gives the most balanced account of the murders. We're told that Wilkes did extensive research and interviewed a number of witnesses and that's evident when you read this book.

Yet Wilkes does not attribute his quotes or information. Though, to be fair, none of the books about the WHF murders do this. This lack of attribution is a weakness in all of these books, in my opinion.

Wilkes seems to me to begin from a 'guilty' perspective, however by the end of the book he reaches the conclusion that the question of who killed five members of Jeremy's family is 'too close to call'.

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 11:16:PM »
For any reader with no prior knowledge of the case for them it would be easier to view jeremy guilty and then see what these books have to offer, interesting other than Colin Caffell no other relative has found the need to put their thoughts into a book not even mugford that i do find strange .

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2012, 11:26:PM »

The Wilkes book in some ways gives the most balanced account of the murders. We're told that Wilkes did extensive research and interviewed a number of witnesses and that's evident when you read this book.

Yet Wilkes does not attribute his quotes or information. Though, to be fair, none of the books about the WHF murders do this. This lack of attribution is a weakness in all of these books, in my opinion.

Wilkes seems to me to begin from a 'guilty' perspective, however by the end of the book he reaches the conclusion that the question of who killed five members of Jeremy's family is 'too close to call'.

I have to say, I did wonder where he had got some of the conversations and detail from and whether or not they are actual 'quotes'. I'm also finding it unfortuante that some of it is written as if a novel. The opening with Sheila walking into the field nearly led me to put it down and forget about it.

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2012, 11:33:PM »
For any reader with no prior knowledge of the case for them it would be easier to view jeremy guilty and then see what these books have to offer, interesting other than Colin Caffell no other relative has found the need to put their thoughts into a book not even mugford that i do find strange .


That's a very good point, Mertol.  Though I'm not surprised that JM has not written a book.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2012, 11:36:PM »
I don't think that it is strange no other family members have written books. If I was in their shoes and my family was killed the last thing I would be doing is ever writing a book about it.

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2012, 11:37:PM »

That's a very good point, Mertol.  Though I'm not surprised that JM has not written a book.
i can understand why colin put pen to paper he lost the world at the time, ive heard on the grapevine signed copies of the scott lomax book is on sale at Amazon.

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 11:39:PM »
i can understand why colin put pen to paper he lost the world at the time, ive heard on the grapevine signed copies of the scott lomax book is on sale at Amazon.

Who told you that mertol lol  8) :P

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 11:45:PM »
Who told you that mertol lol  8) :P
Like JR Ewing patti i hear everything..

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 11:50:PM »
Like JR Ewing patti i hear everything..

Mertol it is only fair that everyone should know a signed copies of Lomax's book is available on Amazon, sold by the man himself, who incidentally lives a couple of villages away from me...I have bought one today....Well worth the buy.  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 11:54:PM »
i can understand why colin put pen to paper he lost the world at the time, ive heard on the grapevine signed copies of the scott lomax book is on sale at Amazon.
We have to remember that collin wrote a book from his point of view. That doesnt mean anything else. Sure he lost his boys but we have to remember he dumped Sheila. Sheilas parents are supposed to be the bad guys but quite simply they were the ones spending the money,trying to find support for sheila etc. Colin left sheila for someone else. Why is he treated as the holy grail if he cared anything for the sick mother of his children maybe he shouldnt have left her for another woman. Maybe he should have stuck around a bit longer. It so easy to blame other people but maybe he should have taken a bit more responsibility.

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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2012, 12:24:AM »
We have to remember that collin wrote a book from his point of view. That doesnt mean anything else. Sure he lost his boys but we have to remember he dumped Sheila. Sheilas parents are supposed to be the bad guys but quite simply they were the ones spending the money,trying to find support for sheila etc. Colin left sheila for someone else. Why is he treated as the holy grail if he cared anything for the sick mother of his children maybe he shouldnt have left her for another woman. Maybe he should have stuck around a bit longer. It so easy to blame other people but maybe he should have taken a bit more responsibility.
maggie Colin has done things i never will, marry and have children i find it hard at times to fully take in what he feels, in his book you do get a answer to how he did feel upon his own death he will be buried with his boys and sheila as he said to be together once more forever, no one can blame him for his destiny are we perfect ?

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2012, 12:28:AM »
No mertol, none of us are perfect but he played his part in sheila's tragedy.

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2012, 12:30:AM »
No mertol, none of us are perfect but he played his part in sheila's tragedy.
He dunped sheila and moved in with someone else, he dumped Jeremy. Sorry.... bit spineless in my eyes.

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2012, 12:37:AM »
Can you leave a partner if they are that ill and needy

I would have thought  it should be impossible
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2012, 12:37:AM »
No mertol, none of us are perfect but he played his part in sheila's tragedy.
i dont see how i sensed in the book sheila wanted colin back , but what happens when love dies yet at most funeral services you hear love is the greatest force of all i think the love died  everyone is different everyone has a life ledger open