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Offline lookout

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2012, 09:53:AM »
Sagar,,,no,I don't know the man.Do you.?

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2012, 09:53:AM »
Yes i see that, but why do you think the man is an idiot? Seems unfair.
David Boutflour is certainly NO idiot.

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #77 on: May 22, 2012, 09:55:AM »
Sagar,,,no,I don't know the man.Do you.?


No, thats why i wouldnt call him an idiot.

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #78 on: May 22, 2012, 09:57:AM »
Well I will tell you what actually happens after an operation of this kind. The soc officers meet for a debriefing and each one reads over his/her notes and if there are any discrepancies it is there that they are ironed out. This explains why all the police statements read as one.
But in actual fact no one sees things exactly the same. Take the Bible as an example. If there had been collusion with the gospel writers then all the gospels would be exactly the same. But there are marked differences that even those who write harmonies of the gospel cannot explain. It that which makes the gospel believable to those who follow Christ. If they all said the same then it would be suspicious. (just an example not to be pressed to the limits)
What I am saying is that these police statements read too perfectly to be true. But it is common practice for police to do that and possibly, no actually alter notes so they are seen to say the same thing. They do this for preparation to go to court.
This too is common practice with solicitors. They do exactly the same. They make sure that all their witnesses say the same thing and it is a logical thing to do.
But the actual notebooks are the first point of reference. The first point of contact if you like and the very fact that sometimes they do not agree it testament to their veracity.
This could explain why certain pages have mysteriously gone missing out of certain police officers notebooks?

How do you explain Jeapes statement then?

I see what you're saying but if the log writer says something is white, and everyone who was there agree that it was black, it's sensible to correct it
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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #79 on: May 22, 2012, 10:02:AM »
To put that into context, he had forgotten that Sheila had come with them on a 3 day shoot some 9 or 10 years earlier. He maintained that he could not recall seeing her handle a gun on that trip, or on any other occasion.

No let's put this in perspective you would not forget this if a member of YOUR FAMILY could be wrongly accused of murder
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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #80 on: May 22, 2012, 10:04:AM »
No let's put this in perspective you would not forget this if a member of YOUR FAMILY could be wrongly accused of murder

Ah, the evil family strike again.
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« Reply #81 on: May 22, 2012, 10:05:AM »
How do you explain Jeapes statement then?

I see what you're saying but if the log writer says something is white, and everyone who was there agree that it was black, it's sensible to correct it
Not really. No one is qualified to change individual notebooks. Every notebook should be kept under file "intact" It is clear that some pages and even whole notebooks have gone missing. Even if it may seem sensible to change the record of what someone else said they saw it should never be done. I believe in order to get a whole picture of how something happened then all we will see is one uniform statement all nice and white which in effect is quite probably in effect only one person's view of things. the view of the one who is in charge basically. We don't know that one person was wrong because he testified something was white and all the rest saw it as black. Who is to tell that the one who saw white was not the correct one? History is strewn with accounts where the minority have been right and the majority wrong.

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2012, 10:06:AM »
Ah, the evil family strike again.

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2012, 10:08:AM »
No let's put this in perspective you would not forget this if a member of YOUR FAMILY could be wrongly accused of murder

Why wouldn't you? If you forget about something is it possible to unforget it when later circumstances require?
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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #84 on: May 22, 2012, 10:11:AM »
Not really. No one is qualified to change individual notebooks. Every notebook should be kept under file "intact" It is clear that some pages and even whole notebooks have gone missing. Even if it may seem sensible to change the record of what someone else said they saw it should never be done. I believe in order to get a whole picture of how something happened then all we will see is one uniform statement all nice and white which in effect is quite probably in effect only one person's view of things. the view of the one who is in charge basically. We don't know that one person was wrong because he testified something was white and all the rest saw it as black. Who is to tell that the one who saw white was not the correct one? History is strewn with accounts where the minority have been right and the majority wrong.

If one person thought there was a two way conversation going you'd think it would be in a statement. Was the writer of the logs at the farm?
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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #85 on: May 22, 2012, 10:15:AM »
Colin remembers going on a shoot with Sheila....in his book she was a beater, so that was less than 10 years ago....Unless you are saying he is not telling the truth! :)

Thank you Patti

It's a case with Robert Boutflour of selective memory and as for Robert Boutflour being a good honest man I don't believe that's the impression most of the impartial members of this forum think

Vidvic you made a statement a weeks ago that Jeremy killed his family not think he killed his family you know he killed his family

You keep asking Mike to post the missing photo

Please post the PROOF that you KNOW Jeremy killed his family and the whole forum can wait with baited
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« Reply #86 on: May 22, 2012, 10:16:AM »
;D ;D ;D
I don't believe the family are evil at all. They didn't ask to be caught up in this and I can also understand their frustration about this. I know that this may offend some pro bambers and I apologise, because I can also see JB's side of things as well. The only reason I am a pro bamber is because there was clearly miscarriage of justice in all this. I don't think the evidence shows that the family were involved in all this. But I do believe that they were used in some way to support the prosecution side of the case. If it was to be a fair trial then the question still remains, why all the undeclared evidence all these years? The police are clearly not telling us something which they are keen to keep hidden. The question is, what is it they want to keep secret. All this is well documented and I don't need to verify anything at this stage. But I must make it very clear that I do not believe the family had a hand in this miscarriage of justice. But I do think they were used in order to perpetrate this MOJ Which I believe somehow goes right to the top.

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2012, 10:18:AM »
Certainly jackie. Once you post the evidence which shows he didn't. No probs.
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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #88 on: May 22, 2012, 10:19:AM »
If one person thought there was a two way conversation going you'd think it would be in a statement. Was the writer of the logs at the farm?
I don't know Bridget. That is what I mean by honest enquiry. :)

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Re: Police arrival at WHF what next ?
« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2012, 10:20:AM »
I don't believe the family are evil at all. They didn't ask to be caught up in this and I can also understand their frustration about this. I know that this may offend some pro bambers and I apologise, because I can also see JB's side of things as well. The only reason I am a pro bamber is because there was clearly miscarriage of justice in all this. I don't think the evidence shows that the family were involved in all this. But I do believe that they were used in some way to support the prosecution side of the case. If it was to be a fair trial then the question still remains, why all the undeclared evidence all these years? The police are clearly not telling us something which they are keen to keep hidden. The question is, what is it they want to keep secret. All this is well documented and I don't need to verify anything at this stage. But I must make it very clear that I do not believe the family had a hand in this miscarriage of justice. But I do think they were used in order to perpetrate this MOJ Which I believe somehow goes right to the top.

Thank you for your honesty Grahame.
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