no explanation given for Sheila's body being in locations at 7.37, 9.05 and 10am

[bloggs and son]

I agree, if there was a rifle by the window at all. That is your weak point, no one else reports seeing it, and also, I'm puzzled as to why Jeapes didn't make more of a song and dance over it at the time, if she did indeed see it.

We have a photo of "a" rifle leaning against the window though. That must be explained before Julia Jeapes' statement is to be disgarded. Just by ignoring her statement as a mistake is not really good enough in my estimation. We can't just dismiss any statement we like just because it doesn't fit in with our own beliefs.

[NewChilledOutHartley]

We have a photo of "a" rifle leaning against the window though. That must be explained before Julia Jeapes' statement is to be disgarded. Just by ignoring her statement as a mistake is not really good enough in my estimation. We can't just dismiss any statement we like just because it doesn't fit in with our own beliefs.

It is explained Grahame, the Anshutz rifle was removed from the right side of Sheilas body, made safe and placed leaning against the window reveal. 

[Bridget]

We have a photo of "a" rifle leaning against the window though. That must be explained before Julia Jeapes' statement is to be disgarded. Just by ignoring her statement as a mistake is not really good enough in my estimation. We can't just dismiss any statement we like just because it doesn't fit in with our own beliefs.

I agree, but the photo has been explained - maybe not to everyone's satisfaction, and if you accept that explanation then Jeapes sighting is completely unconnected.

[Bridget]

It is explained Grahame, the Anshutz rifle was removed from the right side of Sheilas body, made safe and placed leaning against the window reveal. 

You're too quick for me this morning.

[bloggs and son]

I agree, but the photo has been explained - maybe not to everyone's satisfaction, and if you accept that explanation then Jeapes sighting is completely unconnected.

So is there an official statement on the forum that explains that? If so I would like to see it.

[NewChilledOutHartley]

You're too quick for me this morning.

I keep seeing your posts and thinking, when did I write that?  You seem to be on the same wavelength.

[bloggs and son]

I keep seeing your posts and thinking, when did I write that?  You seem to be on the same wavelength.

Probably because you both think he's guilty?

[NewChilledOutHartley]

Probably because you both think he's guilty?

Yeah but so does Vidvic, yet we disagree often.   :D

[Bridget]

So is there an official statement on the forum that explains that? If so I would like to see it.

This is where you'll see the difference between me and Hartley, it's in someone or other's witness statement, COLP statement or trial transcript and I can't remember whose.

[NewChilledOutHartley]

This is where you'll see the difference between me and Hartley, it's in someone or other's witness statement, COLP statement or trial transcript and I can't remember whose.

It is Cooks trial evidence.
Extract attached and full document is located here: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,185.msg488.html#msg488

[Patti]

It's quite clear the gun was removed form her and then placed back onto her body. It's clear her arm was moved too...In fact the photographs shows there were 5 moves in..See the thread Spot the Difference.

From what I gather the gun was made safe after the photographs were taken in the main bedroom and placed at the window.  Then photo's were taken on the landing, which as we can see the gun is sited at the window.....

[Jane]

This is probably a bit out of context but I often wonder why Sheila didn't take her life near her sons or in her own room rather than in her parents bedroom?  But then I guess she wasn't exactly thinking rationally?  Or was she prevented from doing this by the police turning up/raid team?

Had JB have been responsible surely the above scenarios wld be more compelling than in her parents bedroom?

Hi, egap1. Even if it is out of context, it links in perfectly with my question.
Do we know for certain that Sheila took her life in her parents' bedroom? The reason I ask is because it appears to be documented that her body was seen to be in different places and positions at different times.
Position 1, kitchen floor. Position 2, upstairs on bed. Position 3a, bedroom floor, hand on gun. Position 3b, bedroom floor, finger on trigger.
How could Jeremy have been responsible for "stage managing" her body to Position 3a, bedroom floor when he was with Ann Eaton when DC Clarke told her that he had seen her on the bed which would have the earlier Position 2?

[bloggs and son]

Yeah but so does Vidvic, yet we disagree often.   :D

Yes I've noticed that.

[bloggs and son]

It's quite clear the gun was removed form her and then placed back onto her body. It's clear her arm was moved too...In fact the photographs shows there were 5 moves in..See the thread Spot the Difference.

From what I gather the gun was made safe after the photographs were taken in the main bedroom and placed at the window.  Then photo's were taken on the landing, which as we can see the gun is sited at the window.....

Just wild speculation here. But do you think the gun went off accidentally as it was being made safe, thuse shooting sheila again? Maybe the shot that was referred to as the non fatal shot?