Post Mortem

[sagar]

Why are you so keen to close down the debate, Sagar? It seems as though these results worry you!

No not at all choco, i am sure he is guilty afterall he was found guilty in a court of law.

I dont know what is supposedly withheld, does anyone else? But you all seem sure that whatever it is will prove your man innocent, im more than happy to keep the debate going by the way.

Bamber took two kids out and a stunning young woman in her prime. He is where he should be imo.

[sagar]

Must dash, need to walk the dogs.

Goodnight.

[mertol22]

No not at all choco, i am sure he is guilty afterall he was found guilty in a court of law.

I dont know what is supposedly withheld, does anyone else? But you all seem sure that whatever it is will prove your man innocent, im more than happy to keep the debate going by the way.

Bamber took two kids out and a stunning young woman in her prime. He is where he should be imo.

I can judge a person in one sentence i sense from you its simple he is guilty , that be the case i see little on this forum for you perhaps you will find Lambertons site more fitting they share your view , thats where you belong clearly not here.

[bloggs]

No one but no one is lucky enough to get ALL  the questions right. But Jeremy did get them all right. Some people here will settle for nothing less that perfect proof to believe that Jeremy is innocent. Although he was convicted on practically no proof. Some are dishonest and do not want to listen. They think he's guilty and will not change their minds even if there was perfect proof of his innocence.

[guest154]

I can judge a person in one sentence i sense from you its simple he is guilty , that be the case i see little on this forum for you perhaps you will find Lambertons site more fitting they share your view , thats where you belong clearly not here.

That's not very nice.

[bloggs]

Why all the talk of lie detectors?

They are inadmissable in court, jb could take a thousand tests it makes not one iota of difference.
I agree with Bridget, he should shut up, admit what he has done and stop wasting peoples time.

He should spare a thought for what he is putting his family through,  they have suffered enough.

Right, how is everyone? All good and well?

Well let's only hope that you don't find yourself convicted of a murder that you did not commit. I bet you wouldn't shut up and admit to it.

[Nuala]

Well let's only hope that you don't find yourself convicted of a murder that you did not commit. I bet you wouldn't shut up and admit to it.

Excellent point, Bloggs!

[sagar]

I can judge a person in one sentence i sense from you its simple he is guilty , that be the case i see little on this forum for you perhaps you will find Lambertons site more fitting they share your view , thats where you belong clearly not here.

This is a forum Mertol, iam entitled to an opinion.

I have been reading this forum for quite a while and just plucked up courage to join.
I think jb is guilty and knew i would be savaged for it, the evidence points to bamber, show me the evidence his sister did it. She was a mild schizophrenic and thats it.

How did she fight with her father and not a mark on her? Please tell me how she managed it.
No gun residue, she shot herself twice, where is the residue?

[Bridget]

So does that equate to the only interest in the psychological tests themselves as being whether or not JB should be downgraded?  The tests are designed purely for that purpose only... but not to assess self deception in general?  Perhaps if we can find the missing paragraph, it will indicate that he is a self deceptive psychopath then?   If your argument is that he passed the lie detector test because he deceives him self, then i suggest a psychological test which indicates a lack of self deception is a tad relevant.

The tests done in 2011 were to see whether in 2011 his apparent anodyne composure was down to him deceiving either himself or the assessor.

There is another 13 odd pages to the report.

He passed the LD test because LD tests are inaccurate.

[susan]

sagar  How did Jeremy fight with his Father he had no marks on him either.

[ngb1066]

This is a forum Mertol, iam entitled to an opinion.I have been reading this forum for quite a while and just plucked up courage to join.
I think jb is guilty and knew i would be savaged for it, the evidence points to bamber, show me the evidence his sister did it. She was a mild schizophrenic and thats it.

How did she fight with her father and not a mark on her? Please tell me how she managed it.
No gun residue, she shot herself twice, where is the residue?

You are entitled to an opinion Sagar and you are entitled to express it freely here.  We welcome open debate as that assists all of us.

[lookout]

Good morning All,,,,,,does anyone have a copy/video of Jeremy Bambers first televised interview after the murders.?  A lot can be gained from these interviews,as in a lot of cases,one can reach a conclusion just by watching their body language and also how they interpret a crime.
I'm sure most of us have studied some of these interviews and possibly made up our minds there and then whether that person appears to be guilty or not.
I remember the Colin Stagg scenario,and saying to myself " poor sod ",it wasn't him.
We've all seen the blubbering " crocodile tears " of some,which immediately tell you,well me,anyway,that they're guilty.
There's a heck of a difference in someone appearing devastated, and being guilty.

[bloggs and son]

No not at all choco, i am sure he is guilty afterall he was found guilty in a court of law.

I dont know what is supposedly withheld, does anyone else? But you all seem sure that whatever it is will prove your man innocent, im more than happy to keep the debate going by the way.

Bamber took two kids out and a stunning young woman in her prime. He is where he should be imo.

Hello subject sagar. MOJ's are much much more common than you think. Courts are made up of only fallable humans who can only look at the evidence that is presented to them at the time. Sadly it is all too common that that does not happen. Believe it or not police do lie in order to get a conviction. Also all witnesses are not saints as we may think and there are those whop are for reasons best known to themselves who seem to have mental blocks all because they hate Bamber. Bad karma, very bad.

[bloggs and son]

The tests done in 2011 were to see whether in 2011 his apparent anodyne composure was down to him deceiving either himself or the assessor.

There is another 13 odd pages to the report.

He passed the LD test because LD tests are inaccurate.

Hello subject Bridget. May I just say, "WOW!" He passed because the LD test was inaccurate? In spite of the fact that he passed on ALL questions? He must be some kanda superman to do that? Hmm. wonder if you would hold the same argument regarding LD tests if he had "failed"? Now there's a psychological point to ponder.

[mertol22]

The nature of the crime demanded that someone had to be found and fast , jb was not  suspect  in the early days , no one can be found guilty of any crime without strong evidence at that, the soul evidence in this case is a silencer that was not found on the day why not ? with up to 20 police officers in the house on the day no one thought to search, and a statement from his recent former partner saying he had planned the whole thing befofehand with no concrete evidence to support her story,for all you know sagar i could have been there that night.