Author Topic: you can't fool me - police surgeon, Dr Craig, got it so terribly wrong...  (Read 20677 times)

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Offline tonyb

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Mike i just don't understand this;

Well, one things for sure, at some stage the photograph of Sheila on the bed with a solitary wound to her neck and the accompanying small dried blood trail beneath it, will appear and have to be dealt with. Then what are the police going to say?

From this I can only assume the Photo of SC on the bed is the key to unlocking a section of the prosecutions case against JB
Do you agree?
I'll assume from the value you you put on this photo, you do agree.
You should know my views on assumption but there you go....
THe way I see it is the photo is a cornerstone to disproving the police evidence that SC wasn't moved.
So assuming the photo, in fact exists, what impact would this have on defence representations, past,present and future? NGB??
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You once posted a still from a crime scene video in which the blood trails looked totally different. Can you repost it if you have time? Do you have more and how, chronologically, does it and the blood tie in with this theory?

Yes, here are the relevant images:-
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I'll assume from the value you you put on this photo, you do agree.
You should know my views on assumption but there you go....
THe way I see it is the photo is a cornerstone to disproving the police evidence that SC wasn't moved.
So assuming the photo, in fact exists, what impact would this have on defence representations, past,present and future? NGB??

Depending upon exactly what is depicted in the photograph it would almost certainly be new evidence which would form the basis for a new ground of appeal.  If it shows a single wound in circumstances where the second wound should be visible it would be sufficient in itself to win an appeal.

 


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There's something very wrong with that lower wound.  The seconds apart theory doesn't work for me.  Wasn't it also suggested once, that the lower wound was a post mortem (accidental) wound?  Mike, what did you think of the suggestion re applying numbered links for crime scene photos, thereby placing the onus on to the viewer, whether or not to view the image?
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Hi there. I was looking at the lower wound the blood flow appears to be broken and slightly vertical. Could this be because she had brought her arm up to her first wound? The flow on her arms go vertical and there is blood leading up to her thumb. :)

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Depending upon exactly what is depicted in the photograph it would almost certainly be new evidence which would form the basis for a new ground of appeal.  If it shows a single wound in circumstances where the second wound should be visible it would be sufficient in itself to win an appeal.
So,the photo as described by MT would probably free JB. Mike's witheld it for 8 years according to himself. I shouldn't think EP or CCRC are to concerned about the Bamber appeals if his long standing (ex?) supporter holds the key evidence in his possesion...
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So,the photo as described by MT would probably free JB. Mike's witheld it for 8 years according to himself. I shouldn't think EP or CCRC are to concerned about the Bamber appeals if his long standing (ex?) supporter holds the key evidence in his possesion...

I completely agree with this. We should all take a moment to reflect, understand that the forum owner has the evidence that is needed and encourage him to bring the evidence forward. Perhaps we should all offer to stop posting to allow Mike the time he needs to bring the evidence forward by the end of the week. Perhaps the forum is a distraction which is stopping what is, it seems, the most important piece of evidence being used in the right way.

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I completely agree with this. We should all take a moment to reflect, understand that the forum owner has the evidence that is needed and encourage him to bring the evidence forward. Perhaps we should all offer to stop posting to allow Mike the time he needs to bring the evidence forward by the end of the week. Perhaps the forum is a distraction which is stopping what is, it seems, the most important piece of evidence being used in the right way.
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I completely agree with this. We should all take a moment to reflect, understand that the forum owner has the evidence that is needed and encourage him to bring the evidence forward. Perhaps we should all offer to stop posting to allow Mike the time he needs to bring the evidence forward by the end of the week. Perhaps the forum is a distraction which is stopping what is, it seems, the most important piece of evidence being used in the right way.

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AGREED. LAST POST TILL MONDAY. XX

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Poppy wolly doodle?
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Yes, here are the relevant images:-
Looking at the image of June it is clear that at some stage her head was laid back in a upward position.
I say this because the blood has run to the right of her face, yet her head is tilted to the left.
Is it possible that June was also moved.
I feel so sorry for june, and the manner in which she died, she must of been terrified poor woman.

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Buddy, I feel for June too, she died an horrific death, so did they all. Which picture are you looking at? :)

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Does it not strike anybody as strange that in the still the blood is completely different to the other photos? If these photos were taken around the same time why does there seem to be so much more blood around!

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Fare thee well...
And there was me thinking you were ignoring me..... :D
It is worth retracting my abstinence now were on talking terms
Thanks Mike xx
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