What Essex police and the Prosecution did not want Bamber to find out about?

[Patti]

It was the fawn coloured phone that was found with a pile of magazines. I have raised the same point about this fawn phone.

I believe between 50 and 100 people, including police cleaners had been all through WHF prior to this phone being found. Any one of these people could have moved the phone to the pile of magazines, perhaps during the cleaning process.

I find it hard to believe that this phone was deliberately hidden as this was such a daft place to hide a phone, it would certainly have been discovered at some time or other and, had it been hidden there by Jeremy, then he surely would have moved it elsewhere immediately folowing the murders.

Hi Keira. I'm not grasping all of this, maybe it is the Sunday morning blues..

I thought the digital phone was taken away to be mended?

The bedroom phone was in the kitchen. Fawn phone found under magazines. Not sure about the office phone...not come across it yet? And a hands free phone.....Where does it say a phone was found in Shelia's room? I'm curious...

[mike tesko]

So...

in order to get to the truth, we need to find out about this instamatic camera, who used it, and how  many pictures were taken at the crime scene, by use of it?

[Nuala]

I have now got some information which I would like to share with everyone, chiefly because I have been ignored by Jeremy for quite some time now, but mainly because I think what I have stumbled upon is significant and has a bearing upon photographs which were taken at the scene for which no negatives exist?

Anyone who thinks that I did not see any photographs of Sheila on the bedroom, should think long and hard, because I am telling the truth, and i would be prepared to take a lie detector test to confirm that I have seen such photographs. The news I want to share with members of the forum, is that it can now be proven that the police have not been entirely honest about the photographs taken at the scene, since an instamatic camera was used to take many of the original photographs (to which no negatives existed) - and here is a crime scene photograph which proves this beyond any doubt...

Hallelujah...

Excellent point, Mike!

[mike tesko]

Excellent point, Mike!

I believe we on the forum can make a difference to the outcome of this case, if we stick together and look into everything which needs to be looked into...

[Nuala]

Hi Keira. I'm not grasping all of this, maybe it is the Sunday morning blues..

I thought the digital phone was taken away to be mended?

The bedroom phone was in the kitchen. Fawn phone found under magazines. Not sure about the office phone...not come across it yet? And a hands free phone.....Where does it say a phone was found in Shelia's room? I'm curious...

I'm unsure, Patti, but would think Mike may be about to tell us!

[mike tesko]

I'm unsure, Patti, but would think Mike may be about to tell us!

Can any member of the forum identify the telephone shown in this crime scene photograph?

What model of telephone is it?

[Patti]

I believe we on the forum can make a difference to the outcome of this case, if we stick together and look into everything which needs to be looked into...

I will certainly try Mike....

[Patti]

This is from JB'S official website:    Firstly there were usually three phones at White House Farm; a cream dial phone in the master bedroom; a blue digital dial one in the upstairs office; and a cordless phone which was kept in the kitchen. There was also another phone at the Farm that was a ‘fawn’ colour and it also had a digital key pad and it is unclear where this phone was usually kept although it was found in the kitchen under some magazines.

It was the cordless phone that was taken away to be mended.

[Patti]

Mike we need to determine what date that photo was taken, because Jean did not resume her duties at the farm till 23rd August.  So any photo taken before that would show it being a different phone to the one found under the magazines Unless it had been returned back to WHF and someone else put it under the mags between the 8th and 23rd August.

PC Bird. Took the initial photo's they were taken well before 23rd of August.

[Patti]

So...

in order to get to the truth, we need to find out about this instamatic camera, who used it, and how  many pictures were taken at the crime scene by use of it?

Mike if the instamatic camera is on the bed what camera took the photograph?

[grahameb]

Mike what do you think those photos are of that are on the bed?

[grahameb]

So...

in order to get to the truth, we need to find out about this instamatic camera, who used it, and how  many pictures were taken at the crime scene by use of it?

Thats a polaroid camera Mike. No negs.

[Bridget]

That picture is definately taken in the main bedroom, and after the carpets were removed. You can see the grippers around the edge.

[grahameb]

That picture is definately taken in the main bedroom, and after the carpets were removed. You can see the grippers around the edge.

Yes I can see what you mean. But where was Sheila laying in relation to this angle?

[Bridget]

Yes I can see what you mean. But where was Sheila laying in relation to this angle?

Behind the bed. The door in the picture on this thread is the one which was near her head in the crime scene photos. Take a look at post 6 in the picture thread:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.0.html