still time for one last throw of the dice - before CCRC close case...

[ngb1066]

From my admittedly uninformed stance i think I'd be challenging that decision as well  in case the statutory test ground failed. At least the CCRC would then have to accept the further reports as further, rather than new submissions. But as I said, he's best placed to decide.

That is a fair point.  I will raise it with Simon McKay.

[Roch]

If a former member wanted to positively contribute to this forum, I would welcome their contribution.  I understand that there may have been some previous issues separate to the forum and I cannot comment on those.  Though I would welcome anything behind the scenes which diffused matters.

[Ben]

Applications for JR must be "prompt" and in any case there is a 3 month deadline.

The review is of the decision making process, not the decision itself, so further tests etc are irrelevant to the JR. It could be argued at the JR that the CCRC should have given the defence a further extension to undertake those tests, if they asked and were refused.

I can't see how he can go on time tbh Bridget for they did give Jeremy over a year since the original deadline and I'm sure these tests came after that too?? so really the CCRC could have rejected this altogether and said this should be a new submission and join the queue again I'm afraid?? Though i could be wrong? I think CCRC gave Jeremy more time than with others so to cover their backs, because I'm pretty sure they had the idea that he would follow up with this action anyway. They extended the deadline many times and there has to be a final date at sometime. His only way now is new evidence, which i can't see after all this time. Only if someone comes forward like one involed in the cover up etc is his only chance to a new appeal??

[Bridget]

I can't see how he can go on time tbh Bridget for they did give Jeremy over a year since the original deadline and I'm sure these tests came after that too?? so really the CCRC could have rejected this altogether and said this should be a new submission and join the queue again I'm afraid?? Though i could be wrong? I think CCRC gave Jeremy more time than with others so to cover their backs, because I'm pretty sure they had the idea that he would follow up with this action anyway. They extended the deadline many times and there has to be a final date at sometime. His only way now is new evidence, which i can't see after all this time. Only if someone comes forward like one involed in the cover up etc is his only chance to a new appeal??

I tend to agree with you Ben. I'm not saying that the challenge would be successful, just that if I was in their shoes I'd probably try.

[ngb1066]

I can't see how he can go on time tbh Bridget for they did give Jeremy over a year since the original deadline and I'm sure these tests came after that too?? so really the CCRC could have rejected this altogether and said this should be a new submission and join the queue again I'm afraid?? Though i could be wrong? I think CCRC gave Jeremy more time than with others so to cover their backs, because I'm pretty sure they had the idea that he would follow up with this action anyway. They extended the deadline many times and there has to be a final date at sometime. His only way now is new evidence, which i can't see after all this time. Only if someone comes forward like one involed in the cover up etc is his only chance to a new appeal??

Ben  - In accordance with forum policy I would be grateful if you could introduce yourself in the Foyer section.  Please tell us a little about yourself and your interest in the case. 

[Bridget]

There was a request for further time which was initially refused at the beginning of December 2011.  The CCRC then relented under pressure from Simon McKay, but they only gave an extension until 31st January and they made it clear that this was the final deadline.

Actually, thinking about it some more, if those decisions were made in December he's probably out of time to raise it at JR.

[ngb1066]

Actually, thinking about it some more, if those decisions were made in December he's probably out of time to raise it at JR.

Yes, that must be correct.  I think his only JR issue will be the decision itself.

[JackiePreece]

Something really annoys me about this because when I used to write to Jeremy and speak to him on the phone he told me the CCRC were bending over backwards to help him and were giving him as much time as he needed but hey presto all of all sudden high profile Simon McKay comes on board and the couldn't pull the shutters down quick enough. If the CCRC wanted to act in a fair and open way considering the way withal evidence had come to light they should have given Simon enough time to finish the Arizona tests

It stinks
Again

But the CCRC are not known for being fair or very competent

[mertol22]

Something really annoys me about this because when I used to write to Jeremy and speak to him on the phone he told me the CCRC were bending over backwards to help him and were giving him as much time as he needed but hey presto all of all sudden high profile Simon McKay comes on board and the couldn't pull the shutters down quick enough. If the CCRC wanted to act in a fair and open way considering the way withal evidence had come to light they should have given Simon enough time to finish the Arizona tests

It stinks
Again

But the CCRC are not known for being fair or very competent

Do you not feel jackie the ccrc were not altogether being honest with jeremy given what he was told ?

[JackiePreece]

Mertol the CCRC were quite happy for Jeremy to have as much time as he wanted until Simon came on board

I am certain of it

[maggie]

Mertol the CCRC were quite happy for Jeremy to have as much time as he wanted until Simon came on board

I am certain of it

Probably right Jackie, its par for the course, sadly.  I have to sleep. Goodnight.

[mertol22]

Mertol the CCRC were quite happy for Jeremy to have as much time as he wanted until Simon came on board

I am certain of it

I can see that jackie, Simon clearly means busieness thats for sure you could be right, im sure jeremy would have gone into deep shock and his world finished if simon had walked away post the recent decision by the ccrc, i applaud simon for staying fast and wanting a positive outcome i hope this helps jeremy a little.

[maggie]

I can see that jackie, Simon clearly means busieness thats for sure you could be right, im sure jeremy would have gone into deep shock and his world finished if simon had walked away post the recent decision by the ccrc, i applaud simon for staying fast and wanting a positive outcome i hope this helps jeremy a little.

You are so right Mertol, the fact that Simon etc are so comitted to Jb and have pledged to stick with him must have been a massive help to hin. I remember the audio when he speaks about  his christmas after losing his appeal. Totally devastated and abandoned. This time the fight goes on.

[mertol22]

You are so right Mertol, the fact that Simon etc are so comitted to Jb and have pledged to stick with him must have been a massive help to hin. I remember the audio when he speaks about  his christmas after losing his appeal. Totally devastated and abandoned. This time the fight goes on.

Sound words maggie if you are going to kippo land i wish you night night.

[JackiePreece]

Night  night Maggie x x x