How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[Patti]

I'm probably being a bit thick here, but who rejected these three statements and how do you conclude that it is due to marital status or nationality of those making the statements?

Are you referring to the jury?

It was Jeremy's defence that rejected them. They felt they would not be adequate to testify due to their backgrounds, it is general knowledge....this happened. Remember that was 1986 not 2012....things are much different now, it would be seen as discrimination.

[maggie]

Maybe he didn't strangle animals. But he certianly shot them...

Oh yes he shot rabbits apparently eventually. What has that to do with anything, farmers shoot rabbits all the time.

[guest154]

Oh yes he shot rabbits apparently eventually. What has that to do with anything, farmers shoot rabbits all the time.

No point, I'm just saying. He did kill animals, which is why the gun was out the night he killed his family.

[vidvic]

Oh yes he shot rabbits apparently eventually. What has that to do with anything, farmers shoot rabbits all the time.

Though apparently he tried to shoot them in twilight without sights which would have assisted him in seeing them better.......

[vidvic]

Mat? Did you see the final draft of the ccrc's refusal?

[guest154]

Mat? Did you see the final draft of the ccrc's refusal?

Well I saw a draft the day before. Can't say I would stand up in court and say that was the final draft though. I'd lean towards believing it was.

[Nuala]

Could we take a little more care about the terms we use? In heated discussions it's easy to get carried away and say something we don't mean. I do this too at times.  Thanks, everyone.   Keira x

[vidvic]

Well I saw a draft the day before. Can't say I would stand up in court and say that was the final draft though. I'd lean towards believing it was.

How did you see the elusive picture on the bed with one entry wound?

[maggie]

And bamber was an angelic innocent? They were a couple of toe rags both. Bamber had a 40k NOW deal all ready for his innocence at trial. He thought it should have been higher. Rivlin was disgusted with his attitude to this.

Where is that recorded vidvic?

[guest154]

How did you see the elusive picture on the bed with one entry wound?

I haven't seen this. I know people who have seen it and knew about it long before I knew of Mike Tesko or this forum.

[Patti]

No point, I'm just saying. He did kill animals, which is why the gun was out the night he killed his family.

Mat the house was full of guns, he had no need to get his gun out; even if he had planned to get in, he would have been able to have got a gun.....It makes no difference if he left one out. None of them were under lock and key and two kiddies were staying there....All the stories about the guns being safe are hearsay.....Like it is hearsay that he got in through the window, of which there is no forensic evidence...

The office where the moderator was found, there was no blood in that office, to trace evidence that anyone from a crime scene had entered that office....

No marks on the Aga when initial photo's were taken, yet 38 days later there were....evidence and evidence is needed and there is none.....There is no evidence to support that Jeremy picked a gun up and shot his family....it is all hearsay for you know who...and that is a fact....

You give me one piece of evidence to say he committed those murders, because his bad attitude is not enough.... Only Sayin...

[vidvic]

Where is that recorded vidvic?

Wilkes. Blood relations.

[NewChilledOutHartley]

It was Jeremy's defence that rejected them. They felt they would not be adequate to testify due to their backgrounds, it is general knowledge....this happened. Remember that was 1986 not 2012....things are much different now, it would be see as discrimination.

Fair enough if that is your opinion, although I hold a very different view. I'd like to think that I have an extremely strong grasp of what is, and what is not 'common knowledge' regarding this case.

Thank you for clarifying your post.

[vidvic]

I haven't seen this. I know people who have seen it and knew about it long before I knew of Mike Tesko or this forum.

So you'd known about it before February last year? Before 'z' handed it in?

[guest154]

So you'd known about it before February last year? Before 'z' handed it in?

Not sure who Z is. But yeah, long before February last year I'd heard that a picture existed, or even pictures and that there were missing negatives.