How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[guest154]

I know that what Mat said seems to have been discredited but he alleged that the photo obnly showed one bullet wound because of the angle it was taking. This could be possible and the photo could be relatively worthless other than showing inconsistencies in the story of the police. The most important thing seems to be to get hold of it!

Yeah, one bullet wound because of angle cause by the fact that Sheila was laid on the bed as a perosn who was alive would - head on the pillow to the head is raised causing the neck to crease.

This is what I've always been led to believe.

[Patti]

I have read that the SOC officer that was in charge, was repeatedly asked if the gun was made safe. I don't think it was.  If Sheila had her hand on the trigger, It could well have gone off....It can't be proved of course....

From the pictures I have seen, there is no blood on the bed at Sheila side to suggest she was on there. But, if you look closely the bedding seems to have been shoved back, to allow someone to sit on the bed.

[ajross]

Yeah, one bullet wound because of angle cause by the fact that Sheila was laid on the bed as a perosn who was alive would - head on the pillow to the head is raised causing the neck to crease.

This is what I've always been led to believe.

You are back Mat, apologies for saying you had been discredited, i thought you had been banned

[guest154]

No problem, Ajross.

[tez28]

Cliff - there is no need to apologise.  You were provoked and then the response you received was way over the top.  It escalated from there.  I will delete all of those posts now.

Please keep on posting Cliff, your contributions are always valued.

who provoked who? and with what?

[ajross]

I have read that the SOC officer that was in charge, was repeatedly asked if the gun was made safe. I don't think it was.  If Sheila had her hand on the trigger, It could well have gone off....It can't be proved of course....

From the pictures I have seen, there is no blood on the bed at Sheila side to suggest she was on there. But, if you look closely the bedding seems to have been shoved back, to allow someone to sit on the bed.

One issue I have mentioned on here is that in the two photos of Sheila next to the bed her body has clearly been moved (there is a presumably urine patch on the floor under her which is in a different position) What strikes me is that it looks as if the bed has been made. Something which has also occured to me is that (while I am not disputing that she was on the bed at some point) if the urine (and if indeed that is what it is) was on the floor then I would suggest she was shot and found on the floor where that patch is. Unfortunately, the carpets were all burned so presumably there is no evidence

[Patti]

One issue I have mentioned on here is that in the two photos of Sheila next to the bed her body has clearly been moved (there is a presumably urine patch on the floor under her which is in a different position) What strikes me is that it looks as if the bed has been made. Something which has also occured to me is that (while I am not disputing that she was on the bed at some point) if the urine (and if indeed that is what it is) was on the floor then I would suggest she was shot and found on the floor where that patch is. Unfortunately, the carpets were all burned so presumably there is no evidence

Hi ajross

Iv'e not read anything about the urine patch...I still have my L's on.....

Looking at the picture...there is blood splatter around her legs, but none on her legs. I'm inclined to go with what the pathologist said and that was the she was stood up during the first shot.

She brought her arm up to her neck....hence the blood falling in a downward position on her arms.  IMHO I think she must have gone down to the floor. She would have lost possession of the gun, so her only way of picking it up, was to hit the floor.....I then think she was on her side, she positioned the gun again and shot, upon doing so it shot her back onto her back....All the blood flows to her right....

If Jeremy had shot her....he would have had to laid on the floor with her to have shot her....he would have to have been on the floor more or less of he shot her the first time......

I don't think Sheila would just stand there or lie there and let someone shoot her.....not only once but twice.....This is why Shelia must be the one that had the gun......does that make sense....

[ajross]

Hi ajross

Iv'e not read anything about the urine patch...I still have my L's on.....

Looking at the picture...there is blood splatter around her legs, but none on her legs. I'm inclined to go with what the pathologist said and that was the she was stood up during the first shot.

She brought her arm up to her neck....hence the blood falling in a downward position on her arms.  IMHO I think she must have gone down to the floor. She would have lost possession of the gun, so her only way of picking it up, was to hit the floor.....I then think she was on her side, she positioned the gun again and shot, upon doing so it shot her back onto her back....All the blood flows to her right....

If Jeremy had shot her....he would have had to laid on the floor with her to have shot her....he would have to have been on the floor more or less of he shot her the first time......

I don't think Sheila would just stand there or lie there and let someone shoot her.....not only once but twice.....This is why Shelia must be the one that had the gun......does that make sense....

You probably wouldn't have read anything about the possible urine patch as it was completely ignored when I posted it and asked about it. You do at least see a patch? Tell me i'm not barmy, it could just be a stain on the carpet

[ajross]

I'm sure there is something up with this forum, it keeps crashing when I try and post stuff

[Patti]

You probably wouldn't have read anything about the possible urine patch as it was completely ignored when I posted it and asked about it. You do at least see a patch? Tell me i'm not barmy, it could just be a stain on the carpet

I'll go and have a look...

[guest154]

I am off to look too Ajross. This is something i've not heard about or read in any reports.

[ajross]

I am off to look too Ajross. This is something i've not heard about or read in any reports.

and i'm probably wrong as I have no experience. my only support is that my wife agreed

[ajross]

and i'm probably wrong as I have no experience. my only support is that my wife agreed

Ignore me, i've just looked at another photo from a different angle and it seems it may be a rug. sorry, looking at the other two photos together i thought it was a stain but looking really closely it seemed a little raised and on looking at the other photo i can see a rug under her. sorry, i'm a fool

[guest154]

I was just about to post I beleive it to be a carpet. But I admit when I saw it in one picture I saw what you saw. It isn't until you look at more than one photograph and angle you realise your eyes are playing a trick on you.

[Patti]

Ignore me, i've just looked at another photo from a different angle and it seems it may be a rug. sorry, looking at the other two photos together i thought it was a stain but looking really closely it seemed a little raised and on looking at the other photo i can see a rug under her. sorry, i'm a fool

Yeah, I have just looked at it....You're not a fool, believe me....I was convinced that it said Sheila was in the early changes of menopause, but is said early menstrual phrase.....I felt a bigger fool....Keep smiling....that's what I say...