How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[mike tesko]

There are things you should all know about what really happened once I removed the the photo' of Sheila on the bed...

I was at peril of being arrested for taking possession of the said photo of sheila on the bed, even though I did not take it with the intention of seeking to permanently deny a person of it. Trouble is, it was considred to be pii material, which was not supposed to exist. Ìf it did not exist, how could I be arrested? I therefore decided to send it to Jeremy for reasons I will expand upon in due course...

[tonyb]

I was at peril of being arrested for taking possession of the said photo of sheila on the bed, even though I did not take it with the intention of seeking to permanently deny a person of it. Trouble is, it was considered to be poi material, which was not supposed to exist. If it did not exist, how could I be arrested? I therefore decided to send it to Jeremy for reasons I will expand upon in due course...

Mike,IF this alledged photo exists AND you gained possession of it AND sent it to him in prison do you not see the reason he is still incarcerated? You seem to believe the photo on the bed will prove the case in his favor. i don't know, maybe I'm missing something....

[G]

Anything that can help jeremy needs to be coming out now not next year or year after, i will say jeremy could mount another case for appeal but after that thats it no more , time is of the essance.

At this rate they'll be carrying him out in a body bag. If I was in his position I would probably go bananas by now. I would have been planning to escape by now by hook or by crook and fighting this thing on my terms instead of waiting for a bunch of old cronies deciding my fate for me.

[G]

Mike,IF this alledged photo exists AND you gained possession of it AND sent it to him in prison do you not see the reason he is still incarcerated? You seem to believe the photo on the bed will prove the case in his favor. i don't know, maybe I'm missing something....

Well it would prove that the cops had moved the body and interfered with the crime scene when they have insisted that they didn't. Also "if" Sheila had only one bullet hole then it must be a photo that was taken "before" she was moved to the floor. Thus undermining the whole of the prosecution case. But of course it is all base on the illusive "IF"?

[Jane]

Well it would prove that the cops had moved the body and interfered with the crime scene when they have insisted that they didn't. Also "if" Sheila had only one bullet hole then it must be a photo that was taken "before" she was moved to the floor. Thus undermining the whole of the prosecution case. But of course it is all base on the illusive "IF"?

And "IF" a body of experts, without agenda, can agree that it isn't just the position of the body, the light coming in from the wrong angle, etc.

[G]

And "IF" a body of experts, without agenda, can agree that it isn't just the position of the body, the light coming in from the wrong angle, etc.

Persacerly. There seem to be too many "if's" in the equation?

[Bridget]

Not to mention the 'whys'. I'm still waiting to hear why a copy wasn't kept.

[G]

Not to mention the 'whys'. I'm still waiting to hear why a copy wasn't kept.

Yes that would have appeared to be useful. If I was in possession of something that valuable I would put the original in a safe deposit box in the bank. But of course I am not Mike. And who know? He might have done so?

[mertol22]

Yes that would have appeared to be useful. If I was in possession of something that valuable I would put the original in a safe deposit box in the bank. But of course I am not Mike. And who know? He might have done so?

Its down to the rule mike said he used to send the image to jeremy, this privilage rule 37a, so if the prison intercepted and destroyed the image to them it does not exist, if rule 37a relates only letters can be sent unopened to contact mike about the image would prove it existed clearly what they dont want.

[Bridget]

Yes that would have appeared to be useful. If I was in possession of something that valuable I would put the original in a safe deposit box in the bank. But of course I am not Mike. And who know? He might have done so?

If I was jeremy and I found out he'd kept a copy of such a photo for all these years and not mentioned it I'd be pretty pissed off.

[Jane]

Its down to the rule mike said he used to send the image to jeremy, this privilage rule 37a, so if the prison intercepted and destroyed the image to them it does not exist, if rule 37a relates only letters can be sent unopened to contact mike about the image would prove it existed clearly what they dont want.

".....clearly what they don't want" suggests, to me, the possibility that which ever experts hear whatever information, they have all been pre advised, from VERY high places, about their decision. I really believe that "they" can't afford to admit that "mistakes were made," the ramifications of doing so would be too costly on many levels.

One of the reasons I feel this so strongly is that whilst I've only recently joined this forum, I've been very impressed by some of the intelligent, well thought out arguements. I'm aware that good arguements don't add up to facts, but considering them could lead to a truth which has thus far remained hidden. Is anyone, at the highest level, hearing what is said here or are we being ignored because what we might reveal is "........clearly what they don't want".

[mertol22]

".....clearly what they don't want" suggests, to me, the possibility that which ever experts hear whatever information, they have all been pre advised, from VERY high places, about their decision. I really believe that "they" can't afford to admit that "mistakes were made," the ramifications of doing so would be too costly on many levels.

One of the reasons I feel this so strongly is that whilst I've only recently joined this forum, I've been very impressed by some of the intelligent, well thought out arguements. I'm aware that good arguements don't add up to facts, but considering them could lead to a truth which has thus far remained hidden. Is anyone, at the highest level, hearing what is said here or are we being ignored because what we might reveal is "........clearly what they don't want".

Most unlikely anyone in such a high place is viewing the forum as from where would they view it without anyone knowing also if they are nothing lasting has happened so far.

[ajross]

".....clearly what they don't want" suggests, to me, the possibility that which ever experts hear whatever information, they have all been pre advised, from VERY high places, about their decision. I really believe that "they" can't afford to admit that "mistakes were made," the ramifications of doing so would be too costly on many levels.

One of the reasons I feel this so strongly is that whilst I've only recently joined this forum, I've been very impressed by some of the intelligent, well thought out arguements. I'm aware that good arguements don't add up to facts, but considering them could lead to a truth which has thus far remained hidden. Is anyone, at the highest level, hearing what is said here or are we being ignored because what we might reveal is "........clearly what they don't want".

What is key for me is that if these mistakes had been made, whatever they were and however bad, if he is in fact guilty why not just admit them to put an end to it all. Everybody makes mistakes, people often do the strangest and sickest things. So if there was horseplay, if they  moved the bodies, if they had a training exercies etc etc, but JB killed the family, then why not just say so. A man crashed into my car the other day I know he did it because the evidence is there (matching dents, paint marks) but when confronted he said he didn't, I expected him to come round later and admit it. If he had I would have said, ok, fair enough, thanks for holding your hands up. The situation is infinitely more grave, the principle is the same! Unless of course they are hiding something.

[tonyb]

Well it would prove that the cops had moved the body and interfered with the crime scene when they have insisted that they didn't. Also "if" Sheila had only one bullet hole then it must be a photo that was taken "before" she was moved to the floor. Thus undermining the whole of the prosecution case. But of course it is all base on the illusive "IF"?

Based on the above, it is in fact Mike who by sending to the authorities the key defence evidence of SC on the bed prior to being moved (allegedly) that has caused tremendous harm to any appeals. Of course, I do not believe this for one moment,I'm sure there will be a classic "tesko twist" in the very near future.... 

[mike tesko]

Based on the above, it is in fact Mike who by sending to the authorities the key defence evidence of SC on the bed prior to being moved (allegedly) that has caused tremendous harm to any appeals. Of course, I do not believe this for one moment,I'm sure there will be a classic "tesko twist" in the very near future.... 

Ah, the twist, I bet you all can't wait to hear the good news...