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How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« on: April 25, 2012, 06:14:PM »
I sent the original to Jeremy at HMP Full sutton in a large envelope with a short note explaining that this was the photograph I told him about which I found in an album whilst visiting Ewen Smith at his offices in Birmingham earlier in the day. I have previously said that I did not take a photograph of it which is true. What actually happened was that I removed the photograph from the album for the purpose of sending it to Jeremy. I stole it to send it to jeremy...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 06:54:PM »
I sent the original to Jeremy at HMP Full sutton in a large envelope with a short note explaining that this was the photograph I told him about which I found in an album whilst visiting Ewen Smith at his offices in Birmingham earlier in the day. I have previously said that I did not take a photograph of it which is true. What actually happened was that I removed the photograph from the album for the purpose of sending it to Jeremy. I stole it to send it to jeremy...

The photograph and note were sent to Jeremy at HMP Full Sutton, under special privilege, RULE 37A, Standing order SO 5B 32 (3)...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 07:18:PM »
Before I sent the photograph of Sheila on the bed to jeremy, under the aforementioned privileged rule, I had occasion to show the said photograph to a particular person who is a member of this forum. This took place when friends of mine were running the original, ` JeremyBamber.com', site, and the two people who ran that site were told about the existence of the photograph of Sheila on the bed...

I will not be identifying any of those three individuals by naming them, I merely draw everyones attention to the fact that the  photograph of Sheila on the bed was shown to a member of this forum, prior to me sending it to Jeremy under the privilege rule...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 08:28:PM »
Other material which I sent under the privilege rule did not get received by jeremy - it was intercepted by prison authorities and placed on file in Jeremy's prison record...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 08:39:PM »
I believe the photograph of sheila on the bed is currently being held on Jeremy's Home office prison record...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 03:37:AM »
Other material which I sent under the privilege rule did not get received by jeremy - it was intercepted by prison authorities and placed on file in Jeremy's prison record...

this came to light after the occasion when I took the picture of Sheila on the bed from the album, and sent it to Jeremy under the privilege rule, and when Jeremy sacked Ewen Smith, and appointed GDS as his legal representative. Apparently, at that time some of the correspondence I had been sending to Jeremy under the privilege rule, was withheld by the prison, and not handed to Jeremy because they argued that he could not have letters and documents sent to him under the privilege rule from both me and GDS at the same time. Jeremy contacted me and told me to stop communicating with him by that privilege because it was effecting communications between himself and GDS who he had just appointed as his new legal representative? Jeremy told me that he had been called up to see the Governor about the contents of letters I had been sending him under the privilege rule (2004) and told that he would not be allowed them in his possession but that they would be kept on his prison file. For these reasons I feel certain that the photograph of Sheila on the bed which I sent to Jeremy in privileged communication is currently held on Jeremy's prison file...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 03:42:AM »
this came to light after the occasion when I took the picture of Sheila on the bed from the album, and sent it to Jeremy under the privilege rule, and when Jeremy sacked Ewen Smith, and appointed GDS as his legal representative. Apparently, at that time some of the correspondence I had been sending to Jeremy under the privilege rule, was withheld by the prison, and not handed to Jeremy because they argued that he could not have letters and documents sent to him under the privilege rule from both me and GDS at the same time. Jeremy contacted me and told me to stop communicating with him by that privilege because it was effecting communications between himself and GDS who he had just appointed as his new legal representative? Jeremy told me that he had been called up to see the Governor about the contents of letters I had been sending him under the privilege rule (2004) and told that he would not be allowed them in his possession but that they would be kept on his prison file. For these reasons I feel certain that the photograph of Sheila on the bed which I sent to Jeremy in privileged communication is currently held on Jeremy's prison file...

I have letters sent to me by Jeremy from this particular era and it becomes clear that Jeremy was very upset about the prospect that the prison authorities were threatening to stop any communications under the privilege rule (SO 5B 32 (3) between himself, and GDS...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 04:10:AM »
I have letters sent to me by Jeremy from this particular era and it becomes clear that Jeremy was very upset about the prospect that the prison authorities were threatening to stop any communications under the privilege rule (SO 5B 32 (3) between himself, and GDS...

What also becomes clear from his letters to me from that era, is that Jeremy was blaming me for it happening...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 04:23:AM »
What also becomes clear from his letters to me from that era, is that Jeremy was blaming me for it happening...

So...

from my point of view, the way I saw the situation was that it was alright for me to use the facility of the privileged rule to communicate with Jeremy when I was his McKensie man, but once he sacked Ewen Smith and appointed GDS, it was not?

I wrote to Jeremy, and told him that neither he, nor the prison authorities had notified me that I could no longer communicate with Jeremy under the privilege rule, and that it was unfair of Jeremy to be accusing me of preventing similar communications between himself, and GDS, under the same privilege rule, If I had not been told I no longer qualified. To be fair, it had been a considerable length of time since I had communicated with Jeremy by use of the privilege rule, mainly because of Ewen Smiths involvement (2003 / 2004) so when I sent the photograph of Sheila on the bed to Jeremy by way of that method, I had no way of knowing that to have done so would cause so much trouble...

The trouble I am talking about relates to my communications to Jeremy under the privilege rule, and similar communications between Jeremy and GDS from that era got stopped, or intercepted, and in some instances got ouyt on Jeremy's prison file...

I would also like to point out that around this time I wrote a letter to the Governor at HMP Full Sutton about the fact that communications I had been sending to Jeremy under the privilege rule had been intercepted and stopped, and that it was on prison / home office records that I had previously been entitled to communicate (under the privilege rule) with Jeremy from as long ago as 1990, when I had been approved as one of Jeremy Bambers official visitors, and his McKensie man?
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 04:30:AM »
I also sent emails to Essex police headquarters (2004) mentioning the photograph of Sheila on the bed, and other matters, but they refused to enter into dialogue with me over the matter(s), choosing to say that such things could not be discussed in public because Mr Bamber (Jeremy) was in the process of submitting an application to the CCRC or trying to get his case sent back to the court of appeal, and therefore such information and issues were subjudici...
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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 06:38:AM »
So how can somebody get hold of that file now? And presumably you are still on good terms with the forum member if not with JB?

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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 08:37:AM »
............ and you didn't think to keep a copy!!  :o

Literally unbelievable  ::)

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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 08:42:AM »
Nick  I was just talking about that (to myself it would appear) and I would most certainly have kept a copy outwith all the other missing documents as it was so important I would be terrified it would get lost.

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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 08:45:AM »
Nick  I was just talking about that (to myself it would appear) and I would most certainly have kept a copy outwith all the other missing documents as it was so important I would be terrified it would get lost.
In Mike's defence, with previous convictions, you might be nervous about keeping a copy of something you have acquired illegally? ( please correct me Mike if I am wrong about the previous convictions, the only part of your history I know is from on here and I believe I read that is how you met JB

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Re: How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 09:10:AM »
I believe the photograph of sheila on the bed is currently being held on Jeremy's Home office prison record...
I'm not questioning your motives Mike. But you must have known about security at the prison and how they are hand in glove with the police? Were you not the slightest bit suspicious of this why didn't you rather send the photo to Jeremy's defence team? Not only that but having known that the first picture "got lost" why didn't you advice your informant rather than go to the CCRC with his picture, to go to Jeremy's defence team?
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