The very best of luck to Jeremy

[guest154]

Maggie. You're mistaken. Jackie is the one who attacks me as she has done numerous other people. I do not know who she is, she has no serious involvement in the submissions made.

[maggie]

and MAggie, I'm not responding to you anymore - you're not worth dealing

Actually mat, I find that highly offensive. I have not said anything to you that is offensive, I have however, defended Jackie.  You know nothing about me. 

[Roch]

If he was to do a polygraph test in 2012 - he'd have my attention. But they stil aren't reliable in most courts because some people can lie very well and they almost ocnvince themselves they are innocent of the crimes they've committeed.

Mat, he took one in 2007.  That's one more than anyone else involved in this extremely controversial case.

Instead of moving his goal posts at every opportunity, would you not like to see a few certain others put in goal... and see how the polygraph responds to the shots fired at them?  Is Jeremy Bamber the only liar in this whole case?   The only liar in this case regarding what took place, just happens to be the only person who has also taken a lie detector test? 
   

[Patti]

Although the silencer evidence at trial was damning, the judge did direct the jury that they could find that Shelia did not commit killings "without reference to the sound moderator".  I suppose that  what I'm asking is, If it were proved that the silencer didn't feature on the night, would that be enough to set him free?  Opinions please.

Hi Neil

It has been tested....If the muzzle was responsible for the 3 burn marks on Nevill's back then no moderator was used, that has been established. But, the heat of muzzle would not have reached the requires heat...so further tests are needed.  That is position they are at the moment.

I have been researching muzzle ends all day.....I now know that the muzzle releases hot gasses....which can burn....but what I am not sure of is what temperature a .22 would be.

[mertol22]

Maggie. You're mistaken. Jackie is the one who attacks me as she has done numerous other people. I do not know who she is, she has no serious involvement in the submissions made.

Jackie  has contributed ten fold to jeremy and his case she can defend herself quite well .

[Neil]

Does anyone have an opinion on Jeremy's return to the house after the fateful night, when he claimed to have entered via the window to collect some documents?  I think that this incident, in the eyes of the jury, would have been quite damning. 

[maggie]

Does anyone have an opinion on Jeremy's return to the house after the fateful night, when he claimed to have entered via the window to collect some documents?  I think that this incident, in the eyes of the jury, would have been quite damning.

Yes but Neil, if he had anything to hide surely he would have kept his distance?

[Neil]

Having sat through two previous appeals with Jeremy....and watching this from the sidelines, my view remains the same as it was the first time around: 

Jeremy Bamber is never to be released from prison (no matter what the circumstances or evidence).

The CCRC did not make this decision alone......they had guidance from above (No not God).....and basically were 'ordered' to announce this decision.

And thirdly....the only thing that will get close to releasing Jeremy (or having his case heard) is if there be a public outcry........only we the people, can move mountains!!

I have witnessed too much to put my faith in the judicial system of this country where Jeremy is involved.

Hello Auntie, On what do you base the assertion that the CCRC were 'ordered' to announce this decision?

[curiousessex]

Does anyone have an opinion on Jeremy's return to the house after the fateful night, when he claimed to have entered via the window to collect some documents?  I think that this incident, in the eyes of the jury, would have been quite damning.

Given Jeremy admitted to doing this one could argue that by doing this and admitting to doing it he could / would eliminate any forensic evidence there may have been in relation to the said window. In my opinion I do agree with your statment that it probably did not do him much good in terms of the jury who eventually found him guilty on a verdict of 10-2.

Apparently any less than 10-2 and he would not have been convicted.

[Neil]

Yes but Neil, if he had anything to hide surely he would have kept his distance?

Sorry Maggie, I didn't put that very well!  I'm referring to the occasion some days after the killings when he admitted to entering the house via the window to get some documents.  He claimed to have left his keys in London and could not answer why he hadn't called on someone with a key to let him in.  I forget  who that 'someone' was but it was implied that these keys would have been easy to get hold of.   

[jon]

Given Jeremy admitted to doing this one could argue that by doing this and admitting to doing it he could / would eliminate any forensic evidence there may have been in relation to the said window. In my opinion I do agree with your statment that it probably did not do him much good in terms of the jury who eventually found him guilty on a verdict of 10-2.

Apparently any less than 10-2 and he would not have been convicted.

Maybe he should just have kept hold of the key's he handed over to his family , entered the house through the front door and eliminate any forensic evidence , too cunning for that , i suppose !!

[Aunt Agatha]

Hello Auntie, On what do you base the assertion that the CCRC were 'ordered' to announce this decision?

One only has to look at the previous submissions.....and this one even more so!

The evidence in all it's glory is there....for his conviction to be deemed unsafe.  He at least deserves to have this case reviewed publicly.

But this was never to be the case - ever!

The CCRC are not stupid.....they are neither blind.....however, Ewan Smith was put at the CCRC to ensure any future attempts by Jeremy, fail.

The history is there for all to see.......not for a second did I think he was coming home!

[tyler]

Does anyone have an opinion on Jeremy's return to the house after the fateful night, when he claimed to have entered via the window to collect some documents?  I think that this incident, in the eyes of the jury, would have been quite damning.

Personally,Ive never really understood why the relatives were so convinced that Jeremy entered whf on the night of the murders through any window.

In one of Pargeters statements,he says that it was common knowledge amongst the relatives that there was a spare back door key hanging in the garage.
But hey.....why go through the door like an ordinary person when you can go through the window? 

[mertol22]

So what happens if this Ewan Smith bio functions stop working ? who replaces him, sounds to me there is more than meets the eye here.







One only has to look at the previous submissions.....and this one even more so!

The evidence in all it's glory is there....for his conviction to be deemed unsafe.  He at least deserves to have this case reviewed publicly.

But this was never to be the case - ever!

The CCRC are not stupid.....they are neither blind.....however, Ewan Smith was put at the CCRC to ensure any future attempts by Jeremy, fail.

The history is there for all to see.......not for a second did I think he was coming home!

[curiousessex]

Maybe he should just have kept hold of the key's he handed over to his family , entered the house through the front door and eliminate any forensic evidence , too cunning for that , i suppose !!

I have always been of the opinion that Jeremy, if guilty, was very foolish in not accepting the keys to WHF when they were offered to him by Essex Police. I guess only Jeremy knows why he did not accept them given he was allegedly already very suspicious / wary of his relatives. Maybe because of all the press articles regarding 4 murders and a suicide he was of the opinion it was all done and dusted and he had got away with it all.......... in other words being too complacent......... maybe even a little too confident and arrogant (as has been reported re his personalitiy).

I guess only Jeremy really knows as would appear to be quite common in this case.