Theoretical conclusions over burn marks to Nevill

[Patti]

I think your probably right with your Holy Trinity theory, personally I find it difficult to see how Jeremy could stage a massacre as some form of Witchcraft/Demonic ritual to implicate his sister....

I find it difficult to think that Nevill was alive at 3:26 when he made a call to the police and did not mention that anyone was shot or injured...Only that Shelia was going beserk with one of his guns.

Yet when the police arrived 28 minutes later all were dead...with the exception of Shelia who may have been seen either in the kitchen or the main bedroom....

28 minutes.....twins shot, mother shot....and a tussle with Nevill in the kitchen....she then heats the gun up...marks his back....goes upstairs and shots herself twice.....

I need a drink.....lol

[Patti]

Nor did Nevill mention any shootings when he called his son.....

[susan]

Patti as far as I am aware he did not mention shootings only that his daughter had one of his guns or words to that effect,

[elphick]

And, remember, that it is claimed that Ralph also managed to coherently call the police around this time too.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/nevill-s-call-to-police

Where he has time to describe what guns were in the house and describe his daughter.

[campion]

 All that in twentyeight minutes, then he had to shower, get out of the window, ride the bike, run through his back garden, get changed, phone the police, wait outside the farm for a couple of hours and the Police couldn't establish a time of death for his family ? 

[susan]

Patti  I don,t think she had killed anyone at the time Nevile phoned the Police but it would all happen so quickly and she would have injured Nevile then beat him before shooting him again then inflict the marks. Sadly we will never know just what did happen.

[susan]

Patti  Thanks for that.

[susan]

Patti

The timing seems all wrong I will go back and read as I thought it was about 3.15 when Neville phoned the police.

[guest7363]

All that in twentyeight minutes, then he had to shower, get out of the window, ride the bike, run through his back garden, get changed, phone the police, wait outside the farm for a couple of hours and the Police couldn't establish a time of death for his family ?

Unless campion someone else did it, sorry i am of the opinion the marks were made to make sure he was dead?

[Roch]

All that in twentyeight minutes, then he had to shower, get out of the window, ride the bike, run through his back garden, get changed, phone the police, wait outside the farm for a couple of hours and the Police couldn't establish a time of death for his family ?

My sentiments exactly.  Not forgetting the stage management to make it look like his sister had died much later; predicting infanticide would be increasingly linked to fear of losing ones children to the authorities; etc.

[guest7363]

?Inflammation near any wound shows the body was alive at the time
 ?Blisters on the skin made after death don't contain fluid. Blisters obtained when alive contain protein (will solidify when heated in a test tube) but blisters obtained after death don't.
?Heat can cause ruptures that look a little wounds caused by violent attack, but they are different as there is no bruising around the site, and little bleeding.
Can anyone help me with this?

[campion]

 That's fair enough, someone else might of, Jeremy might of. If there is a decision to finally clear up all of the conjecture,conspiracy theories, corruption and what everelse, closure is paramount and hiding evidence behind PII has dragged this on long enough. Jeremy could be guilty, Sheila may have had a nervous breakdown, or someone unknown to the Police could have carried it out. The facts are there and should be released.

[bob]

Patti  The Devils mark is a small circle and in Witchcraft 3 is very very significant.  The circle would be inflicted with some type of hot object so it would appear that the marks on Nevile,s back would be branding him as the Devil.  Sheila herself I read considered herself to be a Whitewitch.  So I think this info on its own puts Jeremy totally out of the frame for murdering his family.

I honestly don't mean to be rude susan ingham, but are you genuinely claiming that some witchcraft-related observation "on its own puts Jeremy totally out of the frame for murdering his family"?

[Wodge Badgler]

I honestly don't mean to be rude susan ingham, but are you genuinely claiming that some witchcraft-related observation "on its own puts Jeremy totally out of the frame for murdering his family"?

I do not doubt this? I can easy see that there were witches at the farm. I have seen the photos and it could be very scary there. Do we know if any preists ever visited to investigate for poltergists?

[maggie]

I do not doubt this? I can easy see that there were witches at the farm. I have seen the photos and it could be very scary there. Do we know if any preists ever visited to investigate for poltergists?

  hi bob are you ok??!!