Theoretical conclusions over burn marks to Nevill

[Patti]

Here is the documentary about the burn marks.  It is worth watching at about 20 minutes into the video.

However it is NOT fully conclusive, because of the said heat from the end of the barrel....more tests are needed....

http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=313869

[Newbury1]

I certainly will Nick.  I thought of claiming the idea as my own, but I am too honest.

Has (or could) the Bamber rifle ever been made available to the Defence for testing (in any way)?

Do you think the test we are discussing here could be carried out on the Bamber rifle, and, just for elimination purposes, Pargetters Brno rifle as well (esp. for Buddy as I think he may have something here)?

[Patti]

Note: Someone might like to take a screen shot of Nevill's three burn marks and archive it....

[susan]

Patti  I think the three burn marks have a significant meaning I will try and find out what.

[Patti]

Hi Susan, did you watch the documentary regarding the burn marks that I posted about?


Here it is again if you have missed it..... http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=313869

[susan]

Patti  I would love to watch the video but I am on a Dial Up Connection and very difficult to download and very slow.  I think these marks have religious connotations but can,t think what but I am sure it will come back to me.

[Newbury1]

Patti  I think the three burn marks have a significant meaning I will try and find out what.

The number 3 appears 5 times on the controversial / alleged suicide note (the one with the letters N M D at the top).

And perhaps wide of the mark, but I once asked an Italian waiter, when having a flaming sambuca, why they put three coffee beans in it, and the answer was - to represent the father, son and holy ghost!!

So what, I hear you say.................... and so be it!!

[susan]

Nick the three burn marks are quite important because if we can establish their  meaning it will tell us the state of mind the person who inflicted them was in.  I am not dismissing your theory.  I know the Devils numbers are 666 but more than a round ring we shall keep digging.

[Patti]

Nick/Susan I see where you are both coming from, but no matter what your theory behind it is...I have little doubt that anything can be proven along those terms...but I am happy to discuss it further and try to establish some sort of link.....

Here is the open bible 3/4 of the way down it refers to burns........http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4397;image

Here is the note book with the number 3 written 5 times....and the word please 3 times; amongst other letters....http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4514;image

A bit off topic....but hey ho!

[Patti]

Here you go Nick and Susan.....

When the number 3 pops into your mind, give praise and thanks for (1) The Father, (2) The Son of God, and (3) The Holy Spirit. Any time you see the number 3 anywhere, train yourself so that you automatically think of the Holy Trinity. This is a form of prayer.

In the Christian faith tradition, the number 3, symbolized by the Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), has come to mean wholeness.

The 3 attributes of God are omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence.

It is said that the number 3 is used 523 times in Scripture!

Many phases of life happen in combinations of three:

child/adult/senior
mother/father/child
maiden/mother/crone (the 3 stages of a woman’s life)
past/present/future.

Some people believe in the combination of life/death/rebirth (meaning life after death).

There are 3 acts of existence - birth/life/death.

You probably have heard of the concept of:

Body/mind/ spirit, which encompasses the physical, mental, and spiritual makeup of a human being.

We have been encouraged to live and act in faith/hope/charity.

The combination of thought, word, and deed is the sum of the capability of humans.

The 3 types of matter are animal, vegetable, and mineral.

In general:

there are 3 primary colors with which it is possible to obtain all the colors;

there are 3 keys of music Do, Fa, and Sol are the three most important notes in music.

the three divine principles: light, heat, and life;

three types of universe: matter, soul and spirit;

three phases of the moon;

the earth, sea, and sky of nature.

[susan]

Patti  I wonder what all this means have you any ideas I don,t it is a strange carry on but all to do with misguided religion.

[ngb1066]

Has (or could) the Bamber rifle ever been made available to the Defence for testing (in any way)?

Do you think the test we are discussing here could be carried out on the Bamber rifle, and, just for elimination purposes, Pargetters Brno rifle as well (esp. for Buddy as I think he may have something here)?

The Bamber Anschutz rifle could be made available for testing.  The Pargeter Brno rifle would be more of a problem, even assuming that he still has it.

 

[Patti]

Patti  I wonder what all this means have you any ideas I don,t it is a strange carry on but all to do with misguided religion.

I have no idea my love. I'm willing to discuss anything, unfortunately my knowledge about rifles' is sort of
nil.....

The other thing of course, is are we 100% sure the marks on Nevill's back are burns and not bruises? Given the cock ups of the police at the time!

What may be conclusive is that fact these were made by the barrel end of the gun, what is more relevant is the fact the gun nozzle does not heat up to the point that is can burn in such a way...Therefore, it begs the question of it been heated at some point, if so why?

Also, Buddy has said something about the buring? Now this is the part that loses me....lol

[susan]

Patti  The Devils mark is a small circle and in Witchcraft 3 is very very significant.  The circle would be inflicted with some type of hot object so it would appear that the marks on Nevile,s back would be branding him as the Devil.  Sheila herself I read considered herself to be a Whitewitch.  So I think this info on its own puts Jeremy totally out of the frame for murdering his family.

[Patti]

Patti  The Devils mark is a small circle and in Witchcraft 3 is very very significant.  The circle would be inflicted with some type of hot object so it would appear that the marks on Nevile,s back would be branding him as the Devil.  Sheila herself I read considered herself to be a Whitewitch.  So I think this info on its own puts Jeremy totally out of the frame for murdering his family.

If that's the case then Susan, then why did she not burn all of them 3 times and branded all of them a devil? Why just Nevill?