People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom

[maggie]

I can certainly think of an obstinate pig who needs a smack.

  Nice one!!

[grahameb]

I've just been googling pig skin and the effect it had on my estimation was that I had to go and make a bacon sandwich.

[Gillian]

Even being a vegetarian I still had a little chuckle at your last comment Grahame.  :D

[Roch]

Thanks for posting up your opinions further back Gillian.   I have come to believe an amnesty for those who allegedly fear being scapegoated, would foster a protective environment in which they could 'do the right thing'.  This whole case really is an awful, complex, politicised mess.  Perhaps those who would consider coming forward, should be helped to do so.  It would serve to undermine the people who have decided to front it out in the media.  An amnesty for the former officers who only communicate in private, would pull the rug from underneath the others.

[JackiePreece]

I agree Rochy and at least we would know their was a cover up all along

[bob]

Thanks for posting up your opinions further back Gillian.   I have come to believe an amnesty for those who allegedly fear being scapegoated, would foster a protective environment in which they could 'do the right thing'.  This whole case really is an awful, complex, politicised mess.  Perhaps those who would consider coming forward, should be helped to do so.  It would serve to undermine the people who have decided to front it out in the media.  An amnesty for the former officers who only communicate in private, would pull the rug from underneath the others.

Imagine if there was no conspiracy though...

[Roch]

Imagine if there was no conspiracy though...

I had a feeling you might post on this bob.  Personally, I don't like to use the term conspiracy because of the negative connotations.  It seems a bizarre proposition that several people would pretend to interview contacts among former officers, in order to shore up defence arguments.  To me, once you start going down that road, it becomes a reverse conspiracy.  For what reason?

[bob]

I had a feeling you might post on this bob.  Personally, I don't like to use the term conspiracy because of the negative connotations.  It seems a bizarre proposition that several people would pretend to interview contacts among former officers, in order to shore up defence arguments.  To me, once you start going down that road, it becomes a reverse conspiracy.  For what reason?

I wouldn't disagree with your reasoning Rochy.

As you know of old, one of my main reasons for disbelieving much of what is posted on here is that the conspiracy would have to go too deep and too wide to be maintained for more than a quarter of a century. It just isn't at all plausible.

Now... if Jeremy could be innocent without there having to have been a wide-ranging conspiracy against him, then that is an altogether more interesting prospect... But I fear the most vociferous pro-Bamber advocates always bring in stuff like the police murdering Sheila, June being one of the killers, The Duke of Edinburgh being JB's real Dad etc. etc.

It is all rather daft, and it doesn't do JB's cause any good at all 

[Roch]

I wouldn't disagree with your reasoning Rochy.

As you know of old, one of my main reasons for disbelieving much of what is posted on here is that the conspiracy would have to go too deep and too wide to be maintained for more than a quarter of a century. It just isn't at all plausible.

Now... if Jeremy could be innocent without there having to have been a wide-ranging conspiracy against him, then that is an altogether more interesting prospect... But I fear the most vociferous pro-Bamber advocates always bring in stuff like the police murdering Sheila, June being one of the killers, The Duke of Edinburgh being JB's real Dad etc. etc.

It is all rather daft, and it doesn't do JB's cause any good at all 

I see your point bob.  The way I look at it is that Mike passes on info received, from various sources over the years.  Some of the info is a bit off the wall and some contradictory in nature.  I'm open minded about what took place during the raid.  Unlike Hartley / Vic, I do find it mysterious.  I'm of the opinion that something went badly wrong.

[bob]

I see your point bob.  The way I look at it is that Mike passes on info received, from various sources over the years.  Some of the info is a bit off the wall and some contradictory in nature.  I'm open minded about what took place during the raid.  Unlike Hartley / Vic, I do find it mysterious.  I'm of the opinion that something went badly wrong.

Speaking of which Roch... what happened to Z? I've been out of the loop for a while but that all seems to have gone quiet?

[grahameb]

Speaking of which Roch... what happened to Z? I've been out of the loop for a while but that all seems to have gone quiet?

According to Mike he has taken the photo of Sheila on the bed to the CCRC.

[bob]

According to Mike he has taken the photo of Sheila on the bed to the CCRC.

Interesting Grahame.

I've never really understood why the photo on the bed was such earth-shattering evidence, but it will be interesting to see if this makes a difference.

When the CCRC make their judgement, do they also have to make public all the evidence they have considered? (i.e. will we all be able to see the body-on-the-bed evidence?)

[Roch]

Speaking of which Roch... what happened to Z? I've been out of the loop for a while but that all seems to have gone quiet?

Apparently awaiting the CCRC decision.  Mike's the best one to ask 

[mertol22]

Many forum members including myself and Mike all share a view , just what exactly is witheld, what is so special  how can this material be so secret no one is to know, we have a right to know and until it is released we are quite within our rights to demand its release because until it is i refuse to accept jeremys verdict .

[Gillian]

Thanks Rochford.  The more I think about it the more I agree that this could, indeed, be the way forward.  It would definitely finally answer a lot of the questions that has been asked over the last 27 years.   :D