People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom

[grahameb]

Absolutely nugnug. As jackie will have already been informed by ngb no doubt. Asking when everything will be handed back to Jeremy is complete nonsense. It's not as simple as that.

And yet this inheritance was taken away from him in a crown court surely? As a murderer cannot inherit from the victims of his crime?

[Roch]

Absolutely nugnug. As jackie will have already been informed by ngb no doubt. Asking when everything will be handed back to Jeremy is complete nonsense. It's not as simple as that.

I've took the view that if JB ever did manage get his convictions quashed, he should turn the other cheek on adoptive extended family / inheritance issues.  If it was me and I had indeed spent 27 or however many years in prison before clearing my name, I'd be saying 'keep it' and just walk off to a new life.

[grahameb]

I've took the view that if JB ever did manage get his convictions quashed, he should turn the other cheek on adoptive extended family / inheritance issues.  If it was me and I had indeed spent 27 or however many years in prison before clearing my name, I'd be saying 'keep it' and just walk off to a new life.

Whats he going to live on? Unless of course he gets compensation from the crown?

[Roch]

Whats he going to live on? Unless of course he gets compensation from the crown?

He'll manage (should it occur). 

[Gillian]

For once Rochford I disagree.  He should get compensation for his 27 years incarceration AND make sure he gets everything that was rightfully his in the first place and leave the so called 'family members' with what they deserve absolutely NOTHING.  They shouldn't be worried anyway about being left with nothing because being in prison themselves for their part in all of this they won't need anything anyway and before I get a reply to my comments from either Vidvic, who although I may disagree with most of the time I do respect his comments and Hartley, answer me this IF JB is found to have not been responsible for this tragedy by Law then what would be wrong with him getting what was rightfully his at the time knowing that his mother and father wanted him to have these assets in the first place?   

[Hartley]

For once Rochford I disagree.  He should get compensation for his 27 years incarceration AND make sure he gets everything that was rightfully his in the first place and leave the so called 'family members' with what they deserve absolutely NOTHING.  They shouldn't be worried anyway about being left with nothing because being in prison themselves for their part in all of this they won't need anything anyway and before I get a reply to my comments from either Vidvic, who although I may disagree with most of the time I do respect his comments and Hartley, answer me this IF JB is found to have not been responsible for this tragedy by Law then what would be wrong with him getting what was rightfully his at the time knowing that his mother and father wanted him to have these assets in the first place?   

Hi Gillian, that's an extremely difficult question to answer unemotionally, particularly given that I find the manner of your references to the 'family' quite difficult to relate to, I obviously hold a very different view to you.

Having said that, if we took ourselves away from this case and invented an identical case involving fictional characters rather than people who I consider to be victims, then I would say that if it was proven that a person was the 'victim' of a miscarriage of justice, of the magnitude that is suggested, then they should absolutely receive the relevant compensation as determined by current legislation. In terms of repercussions (financial or criminal) to the fictional family members, then it would depend on all sorts of different factors which would no doubt be appropriately dealt with by the authorities (if relevant) or in civil hearings.

Taking a quick trip back to the real life situation put before us, I'm quite clearly prejudiced towards Jeremy due to my belief that he is guilty and correctly incarcerated, so I don't believe any of this is ever going to become relevant, although I understand that you and others (being a pro-JB forum) harbour an opposing view.

It's all about positions and perspectives, plus, as I've said many times, it would be a bit of a boring world if we all thought the same way.

That's about the best I can do for now, hopefully it addresses your questions.

[Roch]

For once Rochford I disagree.

Hi Gillian,

I never knew you were always in agreement with me 

I think Bamber has been tainted in a wider sense, as having been impatient / greedy etc.  If he was able to wipe his convictions from the face of the earth, rendering all previous tales about him as exaggerated propaganda, then maybe he should fight for what was rightfully his.  However I suspect that the evidence that might have been used to blow the case wide open has been destroyed.  The poster 'Ron Cook' disagrees.  He and Mike's alleged informant believe some of the evidence remains.  Unless a cop comes forward and accepts the risk of being made a 'scapegoat' then maybe Jeremy's best hope is to undermine the prosecution's case at trial against him and secure freedom via that route.  I am unsure as to whether such a victory would be strong enough to dis-spell some of the stories about him / erode support for the relatives.

For what it's worth (not a lot to some I admit), I believe that if those former police officers who have not fronted the retention of a false conviction via the media were to come forward, they should be offered an amnesty.

[Roch]

Hi Gillian, that's an extremely difficult question to answer unemotionally, particularly given that I find the manner of your references to the 'family' quite difficult to relate to, I obviously hold a very different view to you.

Having said that, if we took ourselves away from this case and invented an identical case involving fictional characters rather than people who I consider to be victims, then I would say that if it was proven that a person was the 'victim' of a miscarriage of justice, of the magnitude that is suggested, then they should absolutely receive the relevant compensation as determined by current legislation. In terms of repercussions (financial or criminal) to the fictional family members, then it would depend on all sorts of different factors which would no doubt be appropriately dealt with by the authorities (if relevant) or in civil hearings.

Taking a quick trip back to the real life situation put before us, I'm quite clearly prejudiced towards Jeremy due to my belief that he is guilty and correctly incarcerated, so I don't believe any of this is ever going to become relevant, although I understand that you and others (being a pro-JB forum) harbour an opposing view.

It's all about positions and perspectives, plus, as I've said many times, it would be a bit of a boring world if we all thought the same way.

That's about the best I can do for now, hopefully it addresses your questions.

Great post hartley.

[JackiePreece]

Gillian I totally agree especially if Jeremys conviction is overturned re the finding of the magic now you see it now you don't silencer

You could open the floodgates for anyone to set up a relative to claim an inheritance

Vidvic it's all about integrity and doing the right thing, if Jeremys conviction is overturned they should hand everything back and leave quietly and go as far away as possible

How dare they even contemplate fighting JB for what was rightfully his

Even if they handed back everything JB owned plus a hundred million pound it would not make up for 27 years in prison branded a child murderer

Anne Eaton has her children and grandchildren Jeremy hasn't

Let's hope the relatives DO THE RIGHT THING

[JackiePreece]

Rochy I do not agree it is a good post at all.

The extended family and Hartley have tried on numerous occasions to blacken Jeremys name
I could point to 100 ways they have done this.

David Boutflour tried to mislead the jury at trial Sheila knew nothing about guns

In my mind that's as bad as perjury

I bet 98% of people on this forum believe the silencer was planted.
The relatives saw a window of opportunity and took it.

Why should people be allowed to keep the spoils of any crime, drug dealers are not

JB should get back everything his parents and grandmother WANTED him to have and compensation should be the icing on the cake

[Roch]

Rochy I do not agree it is a good post at all.

The extended family and Hartley have tried on numerous occasions to blacken Jeremys name
I could point to 100 ways they have done this.

David Boutflour tried to mislead the jury at trial Sheila knew nothing about guns

In my mind that's as bad as perjury

I bet 98% of people on this forum believe the silencer was planted.
The relatives saw a window of opportunity and took it.

Why should people be allowed to keep the spoils of any crime, drug dealers are not

JB should get back everything his parents and grandmother WANTED him to have and compensation should be the icing on the cake

You make some valid points jackie.  I meant that hartley had worded his post well. 

From what I have learned about the relatives I have mixed views towards them.  I do believe they were victims of a horrendous tragedy.  I don't believe they were let down by police, in the manner being portrayed by them.  I do believe they were deceived by police.  However I have a nagging feeling that one relative may have known more than the others.  I'm referring to Robert.  Like many many other people, I believe Jeremy was framed for these murders.

[JackiePreece]

Rochy but you are saying this extended family should keep millions of pounds when they tried to set Jeremy up for murder

Robert Boutflour misled the jury re who would inherit

David Boutflour misled the jury about Sheila and her knowledge of guns

Anne Eaton tried to mislead everyone about Jeremys character (read her statements about Jeremys character and Barbara Wilsons)

I don't believe they were victims
Look at their behaviour after the murders they were not grief-stricken

Anne Eaton tried to make out she was friends with Sheila but didn't even know one twin from another

JB was well and truly set up, he was the victim

[Roch]

Jackie, I believe they have suffered a grievous loss, the like of which the average person could not possible comprehend.

At the same time, I believe he should tell them to 'shove' their inheritance.   The truth of what took place lies with the police.  The truth of the investigation lies with both the police and relatives.

Bamber was framed and I have major doubts he was involved in any way whatsoever.

Should he ever quash his convictions, I believe he should choose his language and actions with great caution.

[maggie]

True Jackie but Jeremy has said he's not interested in money at all so chances are he won't bother. Apparently he meditates in prison and has found peace within himself, he will need all the strength he has found to deal with freedom. I should hope he would receive compensation and that will be enough for him to start a new life.. The money is so bound up in the crime that it would be best left behind imo.

[JackiePreece]

Maybe a good solution would be for the land, assets and the caravan park be donated to a children's charity/mental health charity as a permanent memorial to the twins. I bet Colin would like to see that