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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2012, 05:14:PM »
Hmm. No answer. If the family have somehow been informed of the decision before Jeremy or before it has been officially released then it does rather prove that there are crooks in the CCRC who are prepared to break confidentiality. If this turns out to be so then public pressure should be applied in order to bring about an official inquiry into the activities of the CCRC.

I'm not convinced branding the CCRC as crooks, is in the best interests of an applicant expecting them to consider their case.

There must come a point where there isn't anyone else left to blame or use as an excuse. Would a Judicial Review be corrupt also, if they didn't find in Jeremys favour? Although the chances of such a review taking place is also remote in the extreme, another sign of crookedness no doubt.  ::)
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« Reply #121 on: April 10, 2012, 05:22:PM »
just answer the questions Hartley youre like a drama queen
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« Reply #122 on: April 10, 2012, 05:31:PM »
Just for the record I hold no malicious feelings towards those on the other forum in regards to their silly callous remarks about Jo. Their own conscience will be their judges.
You are too kind Grahame. I would be outraged.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #123 on: April 10, 2012, 06:56:PM »
  Have I missed something. When did the CCRC become crooks ? 

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« Reply #124 on: April 10, 2012, 07:26:PM »
I'm not convinced branding the CCRC as crooks, is in the best interests of an applicant expecting them to consider their case.

There must come a point where there isn't anyone else left to blame or use as an excuse. Would a Judicial Review be corrupt also, if they didn't find in Jeremys favour? Although the chances of such a review taking place is also remote in the extreme, another sign of crookedness no doubt.  ::)
Notice I didn't brand them crooks and certainly because of their decision whatever that may be. But there definitely is something wrong if the family are tipped off before the official decision is known by Jeremy or before it has been released at all? I notice that you have also not answered me either as to whether you know the decision or not. I emphasise once again if the family has been notified before the decision has been "officially" released then yes there is a crook within the CCRC and I would even go as far as condemning such actions of a body that is supposed to uphold the justice of the land. And if such an thing has happened then yes they do need investigating as a public body just like any other body that are our servants. They must be answerable to us the people. They are not lords over and above the law or us the people.

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« Reply #125 on: April 10, 2012, 07:27:PM »
a ccrc decisn can allways be challenged of course.

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« Reply #126 on: April 10, 2012, 07:27:PM »
You are too kind Grahame. I would be outraged.
Buddy I'm a Calvinist. Some believe in karma. I trust in God. ;D

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« Reply #127 on: April 10, 2012, 07:29:PM »
  Have I missed something. When did the CCRC become crooks ?
Are you being sarcky again campion? ;D

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #128 on: April 10, 2012, 07:32:PM »
  Yep !!

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #129 on: April 10, 2012, 07:57:PM »
Notice I didn't brand them crooks and certainly because of their decision whatever that may be. But there definitely is something wrong if the family are tipped off before the official decision is known by Jeremy or before it has been released at all? I notice that you have also not answered me either as to whether you know the decision or not. I emphasise once again if the family has been notified before the decision has been "officially" released then yes there is a crook within the CCRC and I would even go as far as condemning such actions of a body that is supposed to uphold the justice of the land. And if such an thing has happened then yes they do need investigating as a public body just like any other body that are our servants. They must be answerable to us the people. They are not lords over and above the law or us the people.

Actually that's exactly what happens, as it did ten years ago.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #130 on: April 10, 2012, 07:58:PM »
Who will decide my case?
The final decision about whether to refer a case, or whether to close the case, is always taken by one or more Commissioners.
What qualifications do your case reviewers have?
Many of our case reviewers are qualified solicitors or barristers. Some are former police officers, and others come from a range of professional backgrounds. All have relevant skills and experience and all are specially trained to review cases in a fair and independent way                                                                                                                                                                                         Just his luck that its former Essex police officers with Ewen smith?

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« Reply #131 on: April 10, 2012, 08:09:PM »
theres no way a policeman should on it that is a clear conflict of interest.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #132 on: April 10, 2012, 08:10:PM »
Actually that's exactly what happens, as it did ten years ago.

I think we get the message Hartley.  The family have been told that there will be no referral and furthermore, the response to the new submissions will open some people's eyes.

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« Reply #133 on: April 10, 2012, 08:20:PM »
are the ccrc supposed to be talking to the family.

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #134 on: April 10, 2012, 08:22:PM »
  With all the speculation regarding who influences who, the crucial piece to all of this is that a silencer wasn't on the Anshutz rifle at any stage of the shootings. McKay's people can prove this, so what ever decision is made regarding non referral to the Court of Appeal ( if in fact that does happen ). Someone somewhere is going to have to explain why Jeremy was convicted on fabricated evidence.