People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom

[Roch]

I wonder if Mckay will continue to represent Jeremy following the CCRC's decision.

Personally I think it will be unlikely.

It sounds as if you have got wind somehow of an unfavourable decision for the defence.  With regards to McKay, he's not been supported as much as he should have been from certain quarters, which is a pity.

[Hartley]

why would you say that do you know Simon?

Mainly because any future applications for leave to appeal would not come to a conclusion for many years, maybe a decade or more and during that period Jeremy would not have access to legal aid. Working a few months pro-bono on a high profile case is one thing, slogging it out for another ten or more years unpaid is something else.

In my opinion, Jeremy has raised Simons profile more than the other way around.

It's just a prediction, but I really wouldn't be surprised if they parted company in the weeks following a CCRC decision.

[JackiePreece]

Rochy I have heard rumours of the opposite he is just trying to wind you up as usual hoping all the lies and cover ups carry on

How dare he say he doubts Simon will carry on

I doubt it was a good move to move into a house where 5 members of your family were murdered

Theres plenty of doubt surrounding this case and he has just made himself look stupid again!!!

[JackiePreece]

Hartley I use Neil for any legal questions and opinions and Simons profile was very high anyway and he only took the case on because he believed jeremy was innocent and still does

[Hartley]

Hartley I use Neil for any legal questions and opinions and Simons profile was very high anyway and he only took the case on because he believed jeremy was innocent and still does

As I said, it's just a prediction.

[Roch]

You two were starting to get along a bit better.  I was hoping it might last a bit longer. 

[JackiePreece]

Hartley you must remember the behaviour of the extended family after the murders makes a lot of people believe Jeremy is innocent as the extended family try to make out Jeremy was guilty because of his behaviour after the murders


Thats how it stands and in my opinion the extended familys behaviour was stranger by miles than Jeremys

[JackiePreece]

You are giving your opinions now as someone that is not impartial.

I am impartial in this case nothing that happens with the ccrc will affect me but it will you

[mertol22]

Hartley you sound young and immature and your presence on the forum has no value you speak for no one one of the great aspects of a western democratic society is at least we get a chance to witness cover ups , if it takes all the police officers on duty that day to go to their deaths  hiding something ,if you think it ends then , then i promise you it will not, in this age of the world wide internet its only when not if the evidence goes online .

[smiffy]

Hartley you must remember the behaviour of the extended family after the murders makes a lot of people believe Jeremy is innocent as the extended family try to make out Jeremy was guilty because of his behaviour after the murders


Thats how it stands and in my opinion the extended familys behaviour was stranger by miles than Jeremys

FULLY AGREE....very good points Jackie.

[mike tesko]

Whilst ever the case (SC/688/85) was being dealt with as four murders and a suicide, between 7th August to 7th September 1985, the version of events relied upon by Essex police, was in accordance with the contents of the police radio message logs (two bodies downstairs, three upstairs, upon entry to the premises, with Sheila later ending up dead upstairs on the bed, with only a solitary wound to the neck). There was no ballistics tests carried  out to identify the gun which fired all the shots, not until the nature of the investigation changed (SC/786/85) and all the editing of the witness statements and photographs took place between one file (SC/688/85) and the other (SC/786/85)...

According to the official version of events, there was no ballistics tests carried out with a view to identify the gun which fired the bullets until 20th September 1985, tests which lasted until 2nd October 1985, and resulting in  MDF concluding tht the anshulz rifle fired all 25 shots (including the substituted bullet PV/20)...

News papers accounts from the perio when the case was being treated as four murders and a suicide, place Sheila's body on the bed, in some accounts alone, in other accounts alongside the body of June Bamber, with the gun between them on the bed, some accounts with one of the bibles on Sheila's chest, in other accounts by her side...

I will try to locate details of which newspapers reported these events as described, and post them in the coming days...

[grahameb]

Could you just refresh my memory Mike? Could Ralph's body in the chair be seen from the window that the police said they looked through?

[Nuala]

why would you say that do you know Simon?

Good question, Jackie. I would ask Hartley whether he or Jeremy's extended family have been in contact with either Simon or the CCRC.

[JackiePreece]

Keira I more or less did but I knew I wouldn't get a straight answer

Hartleys only reason to be on this forum is protect his own position in relation to how things would change if Jeremys conviction were overturned and to try to pursuade anyone who thinks Jeremy was innocent that  he is in fact guilty (he hasn't succeeded in that once)

I don't believe he knows anything about any decision or he would have been joined by Vidvic to have a gloat

Since Hartley has been on this forum he has spoken as if he personally knows Jeremy which he doesn't

He is the spin doctor from WHF

[ngb1066]

You edited your post Hartley to change the meaning.  Are you suggesting that you know the CCRC's response to the Arizona tests?

A stony silence from you Hartley.  Are you prepared to answer my question?