Author Topic: The (Andrew Hunter) Book draft, that never got published from seven years ago...  (Read 54472 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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So...

Either, a bullet case is missing altogether, or has not been disclosed and is being withheld under pii, or the .22 air rifle was used to inflict one of the wounds, to one of the victims...

Does this missing bullet case have anything to do with the officers report dealing with the shooting incident which took place downstairs in the kitchen?
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Offline mike tesko

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Does this missing bullet case have anything to do with the officers report dealing with the shooting incident which took place downstairs in the kitchen?

Why has the content of this officers report being withheld under pii?
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Why has the content of this officers report being withheld under pii?

What is it that Essex police do not want Jeremy or those representing his interests to know about surrounding this shooting incident in the kitchen - what shooting incident?

Did this shooting incident involve use of the .22 air rifle, or the shotgun?
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Offline mike tesko

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Next...

Linked to the distribution of these bullet cases, is the rather strange account of exit wounds suffered by a number of the victims, as follows:-
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Offline mike tesko

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According to this information there should have been six loose crime scene bullets found or recovered at the scene, but in fact there was only five...
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Offline mike tesko

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According to this information there should have been six loose crime scene bullets found or recovered at the scene, but in fact there was only five...

Four of these loose bullets were found or recovered from the scene, inside the main bedroom, the other one was found inside the bedroom where the children were shot...
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 11:54:AM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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All five loose bullets found or recovered from the scene, were found inside the main bedroom...

What is interesting about the find of these five loose bullets, is that June had three exit wounds and Ralph and only one, so where did the other loose bullet come from? Linked to this, is the fact that the children each had an exit wound, and yet only one loose bullet was found in that bedroom?
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 11:56:AM by mike tesko »
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by my reckoning the shot to June's left breast...with entry and exit wound does not appear in your calculations mike...
the bullet from that is very likely one of the five you list....so you have 2 missing bullets and not 1 .
The 4 bullets in the bedroom tie up with the 4 exit wounds in regards to June.

So effectively we have 1 missing bullet in regards to the childrens room..and 1 missing bullet from the main kitchen where Ralph was shot.

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by my reckoning the shot to June's left breast...with entry and exit wound does not appear in your calculations mike...
the bullet from that is very likely one of the five you list....so you have 2 missing bullets and not 1 .
The 4 bullets in the bedroom tie up with the 4 exit wounds in regards to June.

So effectively we have 1 missing bullet in regards to the childrens room..and 1 missing bullet from the main kitchen where Ralph was shot.

You will note that I start off making reference to Andrews account of the events as mentioned in his book draft - I am prepared to accept that there were /are two missing bullets. In fact at one stage police were talking about this being a 27 shot crime. This being so, two bullet cases are missing, or two of the shots were made by the .22 air rifle...
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 06:28:PM by mike tesko »
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I think these discrepancies can be linked to the officers report about the shooting incident in the kitchen and the reason why its contents have /are being withheld under pii...
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Quote from: Nick on March 23, 2012, 12:59:PM
It would be interesting to know which entry wounds were the 1/2" wounds?

I have got that information somewhere, and will strive to locate it, and post it...

Mike, are you able to let me (us) know, using the diagrams previously supplied, which number entry wounds were the 1/2 wounds?

This is not meant to be sarcastic, but I would have thought that a person of your experience (based on your numerous posts on the wound size subject, and the theories you have attributed to this issue) would know from memory which entry wounds were the 1/2 inch ones!


Offline jon

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A good point for people new to the forum , to start reading !!

Offline gringo

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A good point for people new to the forum , to start reading !!
Thanks for the tip jon . I hadn't seen that prior to your pointing me in that direction .
   Andrew Hunter has clearly studied the evidence and had access to much and he leaves no doubt that the conviction is unsafe . Particularly his dissection of the ballistics evidence and the police lies and fabrications around this is compelling .
   Even to those who aren't new to the case this is fascinating stuff , and enlightening too , so I thought it deserved bumping to the top again and hope someone else takes the bait  :)

Offline Roch

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Thanks for the tip jon . I hadn't seen that prior to your pointing me in that direction .
   Andrew Hunter has clearly studied the evidence and had access to much and he leaves no doubt that the conviction is unsafe . Particularly his dissection of the ballistics evidence and the police lies and fabrications around this is compelling .
   Even to those who aren't new to the case this is fascinating stuff , and enlightening too , so I thought it deserved bumping to the top again and hope someone else takes the bait  :)

I also found Andrew Hunter compelling reading on the ballistics evidence.  He left me in no doubt that the ballistics is bogus.  The only conclusions I drew from it were:

A) Something went wrong with the raid which may have even resulted in weapons discharge

and/or

B) Bamber was framed

In respect of (B).  I can think of no possible explanation for tampering with ballistics evidence, if Bamber is/was guilty.
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yes very interesting - and detailed. Too much to take in all at once.