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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2012, 06:02:PM »
Children who are victims of any sort of abuse are often reluctant to "spill the beans" Sometimes it's because they love the abuser, frequently it's because they have been made to feel the fault is theirs and if they would only do as they were told, things would improve. Equally, it could be that they are threatened with dreadful consequences if they tell what is happening to them and that would include telling siblings.

I don't imagine that Sheila and Jeremy were close. If nothing else, Sheila's abuse would have created a barrier between them. It is highly likely that they experienced similar treatment, but there are secrets which can't be shared. When Jeremy said Sheila was a happy child, it's possible that it was a throwaway comment or he needed to believe it in order to keep happy his memories of his own childhood. If only they could have talked to each other. But perhaps not!!





I've read that Sheila was shy as a child, so perhaps more sensitive than Jeremy, and she would probably have internalised any negative comments (not that I'm excusing June), and through low self-esteem came to believe them.  I had comments made to me as a teenager and took them to heart even though some were made in jest.  That's most likely true of many of us yet we get over it.  As Sheila and Jeremy came from different gene pools they maybe coped with their upbringing differently and perhaps June was harsher on Sheila as she was a girl, and this is where the nature vs nuture comes into play etc..   

Jeremy and Sheila were both packed off to boarding schools when they were young so they wouldn't have had a chance to get close except during school holidays - not sure if they would have written to each other.  Once they got older they did seem to socialise together quite a bit.

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2012, 07:30:PM »
On the Eric Allison (The Guardian) 6 minute interview with Jeremy. He says some lovely things about Shelia....How she would look after him when he was young...He said she was beautiful and he would love going to stay in London with her when he was 15..he would go out with Shelia and her friends, he loved it.  He talks very fondly of her.....He also says, he wished he could have spoken to her and understood her illness more, but he didn't....and, it was something that he regretted....Aww :)

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2012, 07:36:PM »




I've read that Sheila was shy as a child, so perhaps more sensitive than Jeremy, and she would probably have internalised any negative comments (not that I'm excusing June), and through low self-esteem came to believe them.  I had comments made to me as a teenager and took them to heart even though some were made in jest.  That's most likely true of many of us yet we get over it.  As Sheila and Jeremy came from different gene pools they maybe coped with their upbringing differently and perhaps June was harsher on Sheila as she was a girl, and this is where the nature vs nuture comes into play etc..   

Jeremy and Sheila were both packed off to boarding schools when they were young so they wouldn't have had a chance to get close except during school holidays - not sure if they would have written to each other.  Once they got older they did seem to socialise together quite a bit.

Hi HMEssex,

Shy or repressed? And if she was being bullied at school she could hardly take her problems to Jean because she was being bullied by her, too. I guess we know how Sheila felt about school, getting herself expelled twice says it very loudly. I remember reading somewhere that Jeremy, too, said something along the lines of not knowing why they  adopted him if they intended to send him away again.

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2012, 07:50:PM »
I wonder why she had two abortions? Was she married at the time? :)

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2012, 08:04:PM »
Hi HMEssex,

Shy or repressed? And if she was being bullied at school she could hardly take her problems to Jean because she was being bullied by her, too. I guess we know how Sheila felt about school, getting herself expelled twice says it very loudly. I remember reading somewhere that Jeremy, too, said something along the lines of not knowing why they  adopted him if they intended to send him away again.





I think Sheila was shy and June was repressed!

I don't know why Sheila was expelled or what ages she was when this happened.

I imagine loads of children wonder why they are sent away to boarding school.  Although it's a class thing in most cases, the only time I could have personally agreed with this option is when my two were teenagers and were horrible - if I had had the funds I would have gladly have sent them!

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2012, 09:04:PM »
Patti, I believe that one pregnancy occured when she was in the courtship stage with CF.

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Re: Sheila's behavioural problems/mental illness : childhood - 1985
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2012, 11:05:PM »
I think Sheila was shy and June was repressed!

I don't know why Sheila was expelled or what ages she was when this happened.

I imagine loads of children wonder why they are sent away to boarding school.  Although it's a class thing in most cases, the only time I could have personally agreed with this option is when my two were teenagers and were horrible - if I had had the funds I would have gladly have sent them!
;D ;D ;D like it HME can I send them to boarding school in their 20s?   ;D I think  Sheila hated her frist boarding school and loved her second (according to Jeremy). We have to remember she was probably showing signs of her illness from eary adolescence and could have been very withdrawn and dissassociated.