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« on: March 03, 2012, 03:51:AM »


When Bamber was questioned as to why he had removed the silencer and the sights from the .22 rifle he declared that it wouldn't fit in the gun cupboard with the silencer and sights attached. This surprised the relatives as they had all seen it in the gun cupboard and the sights wouldn't affect the rifles length.

This picture shows there was no need to remove either and that the rifle did fit with the silencer fitted....
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 06:39:AM »


When Bamber was questioned as to why he had removed the silencer and the sights from the .22 rifle he declared that it wouldn't fit in the gun cupboard with the silencer and sights attached. This surprised the relatives as they had all seen it in the gun cupboard and the sights wouldn't affect the rifles length.

This picture shows there was no need to remove either and that the rifle did fit with the silencer fitted....

First of all, you report the incident incorrectly, I have spoken to Jeremy on many occasions about this and what Jeremy was talking about when relatives overheard part of his conversation with police, was that the rifle with the telescopic site and silencer fitted would not fit into the gun cover inside the cupboard...

This is an example of how what someone says can get twisted to mean something completely different...
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 07:45:AM »
Lol. Yes mike. Isn't it terrible when things get twisted?!

Would you care to answer once and for all whether you are still claiming that itemised billing, for all calls, exist for WHF on the morning of the murders?
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 08:14:AM »
Lol. Yes mike. Isn't it terrible when things get twisted?!

Would you care to answer once and for all whether you are still claiming that itemised billing, for all calls, exist for WHF on the morning of the murders?

Twist everything you want to for it to mean whatever you want it to mean - here you are starting a thread and you instantly change the topic into something else. Get the facts right , Jeremy did not say to anyone that the rifle with the telescopic site and silencer would not fit into the gun cupboard under the stairs, what he actually said to the police was that the rifle with the telescopic site and silencer fitted to it would not fit in the gun case in the gun cupboard under the stairs...

Now...

Anthony Pargeters big ears "misinterpreted what Jeremy was talking about", and I notice that the police, no any live/ or dead relative, can or has produced a photograph showing any attempt to get the rifle with telescopic site and silencer fitted to the barrel, inside the gun cover, either outside or inside the gun cupboard...

Now, until you or the police or any surviving relartive, or journalist or TV Documkentary maker, produces evidence that you could/can get the rifle with telesciopic site and silencer fitted into the gun cover, to cease from doing what you appear to be accusing me of doing...

Why is it that you people keep alleging that it is me who is misinterpreting everything, look at yourselves and what you are all saying and believing in?

I can think and act for myself and I do not need anyone to tell me how to go about doing or thinking or saying what I want to. You nor anybody else does not have to take any notice of what I do or say or think, you are all free to completely ignore me if you want to - but at least get your facts right, when you start a thread claiming that such a photograph which you posted proves that in  some way Jeremy lied about the rifle with its telescopic site and silencer fitted not fitting into the gun cupboard, because that is not what he said - He told the police that the rifle with telescopic site and silencer fitted would not fit into the gun case inside the gun cupboard...

Show me and everybody else that what Jeremy told the police regarding this matter was inaccurate or untrue?



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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2012, 08:37:AM »
I'll take that as a 'no' then.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2012, 08:49:AM »
I'll take that as a 'no' then.

Show me a photograph of the rifle, telescopic site and silencer fitted inside the gun cover?

You can't because you couldn't get the rifle, fitted with the telescopic site and silencer into the gun cover for that rifle, irrespective of it being inside the gun cupboard or not...

So, Jeremy told the police the truth about that...
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 08:59:AM »
No mike. You and bamber have taken something which later has proved to be wrong and then changed it to mean something quite different. So, rather than being proved wrong you declare it is the police or relatives that misheard.

I ask you again..... Do you claim there is itemised billing from WHF from August 1985 showing all calls.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 09:10:AM »
No mike. You and bamber have taken something which later has proved to be wrong and then changed it to mean something quite different. So, rather than being proved wrong you declare it is the police or relatives that misheard.

I ask you again..... Do you claim there is itemised billing from WHF from August 1985 showing all calls.

You and the relatives have changed things around, not me...

I am still waiting to see a photographs of the rifle with its telescopic site and silencer fitted inside the gun cover?
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 09:13:AM »
Itemised billing? WHF? Local calls? Yes or no? Do they exist?
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 09:17:AM »
Itemised billing? WHF? Local calls? Yes or no? Do they exist?

Yes they exist, but does a photograph of the rifle with its telescopic site and a silencer fitted inside ita gun cover, exists? Could you get such a configured rifle inside the gun  cover?

Anthony Pargeter and the other relatives did not hear what Jeremy was talking about, when he was referring to the rifle not fitting into the gun cover, with its telescopic site and silencer fitted. Relatives only heard snippets of the conversation, there is no official record where Jeremy tells the police that the rifle would not fit into the gun cupboard with its telescopic site and the silencer fitted to it...
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Re: Interesting Pic
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 09:18:AM »
Itemised billing? WHF? Local calls? Yes or no? Do they exist?
No they don't.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 09:20:AM »
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 09:24:AM »
Where is the exhibit label that is supposed to be attached to the silencer?

I can see the one on the rifle, but the one (or two) for the silencer is missing altogether...
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 09:26:AM »
Where is the exhibit label that is supposed to be attached to the silencer?

I can see the one on the rifle, but the one (or two) for the silencer is missing altogether...

There you go assuming mike.

You are assuming that silencer has any connection whatsoever to the murders....
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2012, 09:26:AM »
Yes they do...



If you have copies of the itemised bill, put it up on here?