There was a personality clash between Shona and Grahame which was unfortunate, especially as Grahame was moderator. With hindsight, maybe another other mod could have been asked to act as a mediator via pm, to facilitate Shon and Grahame sorting this out directly via pm. This didn't happen and bad feeling remains, more so on the part of Shon, imo. Many insults and slurs have taken place since then, towards Grahame.