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Offline JackiePreece

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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2012, 05:50:PM »
Campion are you going to write a book? I know the owners of Colchester Zoo who have two gift shops and one is very very up market and they love stuff like that, infact anything local
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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2012, 06:42:PM »
    Jackiepreece, The only problem with  producing a book is the Publisher may choose to hold it back from circulation, everything I have written so far are facts that have been crosschecked, I have an extensive library to support what comes next. I will either be proved completely wrong with a Wiley Coyote moment, ( yes that one from roadrunner who falls off a cliff ) or somebody will plagiarise it, and take it over. As it has been published on this forum first, with times and dates to back up it provenance, the best thing might be to see what interest there is, if there is any at all. You are more than welcome to see if it does make a compelling story that people would buy into especially American's. See what feedback you can get and if it's positive we can take it to the next stage. Thank you for your interest, it really is appreciated.     

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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2012, 07:20:PM »
Campion Essex has this bad rep when there is in fact some beautiful areas and although I have lived in Brentwood all my life I didn't really know the areas around WHF until Keira wrote about it last year it really makes you want to visit the area. There is so much more to explore I would love to go with my friend and spend some time horseriding in the area. I have a lot of authors and publishers who follow me on twitter so I might ask them.
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« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2012, 07:47:PM »
   Jackie thats excellent news, I think everyone is in for a bit of a shock and once they have all stopped laughing at how I've got it all wrong, and realise that the evidence does have substance and can stand up to Academic scrutiny, see if your friends want to develop it further from there, if they do then all of us will benefit from it. I will have it finished by the end of this week.   

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« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2012, 08:38:PM »
Campion one of the most brilliant things about twitter is the really amazing people you meet on twitter you ought to go through my list and if there is anyone specific you would like to speak to I will introduce you.

I am in contact with two writers in particular that I think you would be interested in.

I came in contact with someone last May through Twitter and he is working on something massive at the moment for Jeremy that should just about swing this case to be referred for appeal.
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« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2012, 01:06:PM »
     Amendment.    Please note, where the word fees has been used in conjunction with Knights it may actually be spelt see, the same one used by the Catholic Church as in The Holy See. When used in conjunction with Knight this interpretation gains significant importance as the holder of a Knights See becomes part of Central Government, having a seat at the King's Table. It has been a tad tricky deciphering Morant's information because when he wrote his History of Essex, esses were effs, so by definition the word sucking couldn't be spelt without having a different connotation.   

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« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2012, 02:29:PM »
     Amendment.    Please note, where the word fees has been used in conjunction with Knights it may actually be spelt see, the same one used by the Catholic Church as in The Holy See. When used in conjunction with Knight this interpretation gains significant importance as the holder of a Knights See becomes part of Central Government, having a seat at the King's Table. It has been a tad tricky deciphering Morant's information because when he wrote his History of Essex, esses were effs, so by definition the word sucking couldn't be spelt without having a different connotation.   




Nicely put Campion.    ;D

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« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2012, 03:14:PM »
Campion one of the most brilliant things about twitter is the really amazing people you meet on twitter you ought to go through my list and if there is anyone specific you would like to speak to I will introduce you.

I am in contact with two writers in particular that I think you would be interested in.

I came in contact with someone last May through Twitter and he is working on something massive at the moment for Jeremy that should just about swing this case to be referred for appeal.

Jack, this is a very positive development  but maybe we should err on the side of caution regarding appeals being overturned or even referrals to appeal.   My glass is always half empty on this case.

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« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2012, 03:31:PM »
Jack, this is a very positive development  but maybe we should err on the side of caution regarding appeals being overturned or even referrals to appeal.   My glass is always half empty on this case.

Well the submission is in (deadline 31 January 2012).

I don't believe someone can work independently of JB's legal team and hope to simply stick something new in, so Jackie's comment  "he is working on something massive at the moment for Jeremy that should just about swing this case to be referred for appeal." sounds like an old carrot dangler to me!

If, as ngb points out in reply#20 in "I doubt "backspatter" phenomena would occur, with shot under chin?", the case goes to appeal then additional material not submitted by 31 Jan  supporting JB' case may be added, but not until then! 

If JB's appeal is refused then I guess it's start all over again  :P

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« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2012, 03:46:PM »
Well the submission is in (deadline 31 January 2012).

I don't believe someone can work independently of JB's legal team and hope to simply stick something new in, so Jackie's comment  "he is working on something massive at the moment for Jeremy that should just about swing this case to be referred for appeal." sounds like an old carrot dangler to me!

If, as ngb points out in reply#20 in "I doubt "backspatter" phenomena would occur, with shot under chin?", the case goes to appeal then additional material not submitted by 31 Jan  supporting JB' case may be added, but not until then! 

If JB's appeal is refused then I guess it's start all over again  :P

From a defence perspective I don't think that this particular 'carrot dangler' should be discussed on the open forum.  I'm not sure if it has a 'technical' link to the submissions or not.  I'll leave it at that.

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« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2012, 03:56:PM »
     Tiptre-Heath comes under the parish of Great Braxted/ Brackstead Parva, it covered an area of a thousand acres and remained the property of the King. Part of it covers Great Totham and Wickham Bishops which are directly adjacent to Brackstead Parva. The three parish boundaries conveniently meet at the summit of the biggest hill in Essex, whose significance will be addressed in due course. By an order of Council made in King Henry VIII reign, it was decreed and adjudged that all and every of the freeholders, copieholders, and inhabitants of the towns of Messing, Lyard Marney, Wygeboroughe Salcote, Tollyshunt-Knights, Tollyshunt- Darcye, Tollesburye, Goldeanger, Tolleshunt-major, Little Totham, Muche Tothame, Hebredge, Langeforde, Wikehamme, Braxted, Keldon in part and Inforde, and of Tip-treeheethe, shall have and enjoy to them, their heirs and successors and assignees Common of Pasture with all manner of Beastes and Cattells ( except Gootes ) at their pleasure without number, keeping their Hogges ringed, They also had the Estovers necessary for Fyreboote but could not use them commercially for making of bricke,tyle, lyme, pottes, nor for common Brewing to sell, nor for common Baking to sell out of their houses. There was also an ancient Silk and Spice Market where I believe goods from all over the known World could be traded even Gootes. I will never be able to look at a Goote in the same way again !!!   

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« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2012, 04:01:PM »
      There are three more parishes of importance, the final one being Tollehunt Darcy.   

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« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2012, 04:14:PM »
From a defence perspective I don't think that this particular 'carrot dangler' should be discussed on the open forum.  I'm not sure if it has a 'technical' link to the submissions or not.  I'll leave it at that.

Yes, happy to leave it there.

Without any detail it's just a way of saying on the forum "I know something you don't" - very playground!!


Campion, sorry for going way off thread - but I didn't start it (to keep the playground thing going  ;) )

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« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2012, 04:21:PM »
Yes, happy to leave it there.

Without any detail it's just a way of saying on the forum "I know something you don't" - very playground!!

I understand the point you are making.  But it wasn't me who brought it up.  From time to time, there are some things that the defence might not want to pre-emptively release.  ngb held back from pre-empting the Guardian article, even though there had been Simon McKay tweets laying down the heavy hints that there was something in the offing. 

It's possible that this kind of thing is unavoidable to a certain extent Nick. 

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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2012, 04:28:PM »
Jack, this is a very positive development  but maybe we should err on the side of caution regarding appeals being overturned or even referrals to appeal.   My glass is always half empty on this case.


I don't see the glass as half empty or half full, Rocky, I see it as cracked and leaking evidence, far, far too much evidence.

An inappropriate PII order, much abused to throw a veil of secrecy over this case. A lorry load of withheld evidence. The Chief Constable of Essex refuses to co-operate with the defence. An unfair trial, unfair Appeals, the failure of due of process and the rule of law: that's what cracked the glass for me.

Oh, and persons with a vested interest in the outcome of this case, posing on here as objective, open minded and truth seeking members of the forum, when they come here solely to look after their own interests, that's what cracked it for me too.