the twins staying

[nugnug]

now the boys staying at there grandparents house had this stay been arranged a long while in advance or was it more a spur of the moment thing.

[nugnug]

what i am trying to get it is for bamber or anyone else to have planned the killings they would of had to know the twins were going to be there that night.

[nugnug]

well it does sound a bit starnge i suppose it would depend on the context it was said in.

[packagebuilder]

I believe Jeremy did ask Colin Caffell when the twins would be staying at WHF which Colin thought, with hindsight, was a bit strange?!

Well as to what has happend yes, but Jeremy must have been concerd about the children wellbeing too, so I don't think its a strange question to ask?

If jeremy should be guilt then why shot the children? if it was over wills and land etc the children are not a threat?

But again I reseached on about psychiatric drugs/anti-depressant SSRI  link strongly to wards mass-shootings in the US and suicides that go unreported, But it happens when the drugs are increased dose, or cut by half or complety have an withdraw period and starts causing violences in some people? they brainwash you!! 

And for many years the medical councils etc have covered this up, because this drug buisness makes billions every year!

Its been found SSRI and psychiatric drugs from the late 70s were more dangoues and long term mental inpairment then modern ones.

But all you have to do nowdays is look in the paper and find mothers the have killed their own children...?

here one example

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-12663965

another

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8691130/Mother-guilty-of-murdering-her-two-children-to-hurt-their-father-in-most-extreme-way-possible.html

oh another

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1376427/LaShanda-Armstrong-drives-3-children-Hudson-River.html

ok final one

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1312378/Torment-of-great-mom-who-killed-five-children.html


see its not impossible, but in them days it was unheard of in the UK? The circumstances of Sheila, over meeting you birth mother, of what would june done? she would of had an argument because june raise her like her own and for Sheila's birth mother to try and come back in her life again, and having the children put in foster care and the her meds cut by half! :'( I believe Sheila could of planned it a week in advance, learning to shot with Jeremy etc on the farm, and possibly jeremy saw something outside & Sheila could say its a rabbit too just for jeremy to leave the gun!

[nugnug]

well there would be a reason to shot them because if they were alive sheilas share would have gone to them.

[packagebuilder]

well there would be a reason to shot them because if they were alive sheilas share would have gone to them.

ha I see It now, sheila's half would of been kept back for them in a trust fund until the boys are 18?

[nugnug]

well control of it would of gone to there legal guardian who would of been colin cadfiell

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

what i am trying to get it is for bamber or anyone else to have planned the killings they would of had to know the twins were going to be there that night.

But only JB would need the twins to be there if inheritance was the motive? Otherwise why would it matter?
Something I wonder about is that in police statements when they visited Colin Caffell to inform him of the death of the twins, it is said he was about to set out that morning to pick up the twins from WHF. Why?
They had only been there a few days. Had something happened?

[nugnug]

how long had the twins been there.

[HMEssex]

But only JB would need the twins to be there if inheritance was the motive? Otherwise why would it matter?
Something I wonder about is that in police statements when they visited Colin Caffell to inform him of the death of the twins, it is said he was about to set out that morning to pick up the twins from WHF. Why?
They had only been there a few days. Had something happened?

Colin was due to take the twins on holiday to, I think, Sweden, which is why he was going to pick them up.  He took them all the WHF as he was working that week.

[Chochokeira]

But all you have to do nowdays is look in the paper and find mothers the have killed their own children...?

here one example

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-12663965

another

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8691130/Mother-guilty-of-murdering-her-two-children-to-hurt-their-father-in-most-extreme-way-possible.html

oh another

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1376427/LaShanda-Armstrong-drives-3-children-Hudson-River.html

ok final one

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1312378/Torment-of-great-mom-who-killed-five-children.html


see its not impossible, but in them days it was unheard of in the UK?

It was rare, though it did happen alright. Yet it was unheard of for very similar reasons to those that explain why, until relatively recent times, there were no suicides whatsoever in Catholic parts of Ireland.