OK. I'm prepared to believe that the Appeal document could be wrong. I'll have a think about this new info you've provided. I still don't think you can know exactly the order of shooting for the first ten bullets though.
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Yes, you can by reference to where the double marked bullet cases, DRH/4, DRH/8, DRH/19, DRH/38, DRH/39(a) and DRH/39(b) were found at the scene - five new bullets, with single marks upon them) must have been fired before these were discharged form the gun, and because June was shot and killed at the main bedroom door by way and use of two double marked bullets, it follows that she must have been shot five times already, whilst she had been laying in bed...
Three further double marked bullet cases, found in the children's bedroom, and the two double marked bullet cases found in the main bedroom, add up to a full load of ten (10) bullets that formed part of the first load of ten (10) bullets from the gun...
Simple mathematics...
It doesn't necessarily follow that June was shot five times first though. She might have been shot three times with new bullets, and twice with old ones, then shot twice again later after she was dead with the next set of ten bullets.
Have you thought about the possibility that the bullets already in the magazines were not double-marked, and that the killer loaded the gun with new ones, took some of them out again, and reloaded them?
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There were five separate bullet holes in the blanket on the bed, meaning June was shot five times in bed, before she got out of bed. It would be hardly likely that June remained in bed, un-shot whilst the shooter was shooting Ralph Bamber four times in the bedroom, because June would still have to be shot five times with single marked bullets, and twice more with double marked bullets, and the children shot with three double marked bullets, and Ralph to have been shot once downstairs by way of a double marked bullet - too many bullets to fit in gun, during first load of rifle for that sequence of events to have happened...
Everything appears to revolve around June being shot five times in bed with new bullets, and twice at the bedroom door by two old bullets, meaning seven bullets were used up from first load of gun in shooting June...
Three more double marked bullets in children's bedroom - making ten (10) bullets in total...
Gun empty at this stage?
Shooter needs to go down to the kitchen to reload with new bullets...
Ralph shot there, with a double marked bullet...
According to you on another thread, June had four exit wounds, so how could there be five bullet holes in the blanket? Also, like I said, one of the double-marked ones is on the bed according to that drawing, so how does that fit in?
What about this possibility that the double-marked bullets were not the ones which were already in the magazine? The killer could have loaded new ones, taken some out for some reason - maybe they thought they weren't in straight or something. That could apply to any of the bullets, not just the first ten.
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Too complicated, best explanations are almost always the truest...
Five double marked bullets loaded already in ammunition magazine, followed by five new bullets which Jeremy put there from the new box of 50...
Sheila was the shooter, she shot June, shot the kids, and then went onto shoot Ralph downstairs in the kitchen for the first time...
Ralph and Sheila, struggled and injured each other...
There was ample opportunity for such a struggle because gun had no ammunition left inside it, by that stage...
Ralph was not shot at all during the discharge of the first ten (10) bullets from the gun - there is not even a speck of his blood at all found in the main bedroom, so forget anything to do with the suggestion that Ralph was shot four times in the bedroom, it didn't happen, and there is no independent evidence to support such a suggestion. Additional bullet cases, DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, in main bedroom, was just a ploy adopted to wrongly suggest that Ralph was shot in the bedroom, but as I say, there is no blood at all from Ralph found there...
But that's just your theory - it's not proven. What do you mean Neville wasn't shot during the discharge of the first ten bullets? You said he was shot with the tenth bullet before.
Please tell me why the police would pretend that four cartridges had been found in the bedroom if they weren't. Why would the police want anyone to think that Neville was shot in the bedroom?
Is there a report anywhere about where blood was found?
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Sorry, but it is proven, and is provable...
Ralph was shot in the kitchen, by reference to the tenth, (exhibit label), double marked bullet case, by a reliance upon the tenth exhibit mark (DRH/19) for the crime scene bullets, that can be associated to the first load of the gun. DRH/39, was two double marked bullet cases, found in the Children's bedroom, bearing the same exhibit reference, and so it depends which way you refer to the bullet cases from the first load of the ammunition magazine, if you choose to refer to the number of exhibit references, there were ten (10) different ones, but eleven (11) actual bullet cases...
If you are not bright enough to understand the difference, that can't be helped...
On the other hand, if you chose to play games by nit picking, then good luck, but I am not entertained by it. I have given you my answer to your question, which may be different to what I said previously, because when that was spoken about, it was in relation to another question, or just a general point. You have tried to imply that I am saying one thing one minute and something entirely different the next, but the truth of the matter is, that although on the face of it, it does look like that, the truth of the matter has been explained by me, on the basis outlined, above.
There is clear evidence that the first ten (10/11) bullets which were fired during the shootings, were bullets which were directed at June Bamber (7) and the children (3), and Once (1) to Ralph Bamber (downstairs in the kitchen), which you can choose to believe in, or ignore, you are entitled to have an opinion, like everybody else...
I can only report the FACTS, which is evidence, whether you, or anybody else, suggests is not evidence...
