Have I missed something?

[mertol22]

And what does it take for hartley to mull and re join at  a later stage ? 1 just 1 member to not share his stance who does hartley speak for.

[Chochokeira]

And what does it take for hartley to mull and re join at  a later stage ? 1 just 1 member to not share his stance who does hartley speak for.

Hartley has deleted his account and returned on a number of occasions. I'm sure he will return on this occasion too, Mertol. It seems to me that Hartley is a member of the forum because he does not wish Jeremy to be granted an Appeal. I have reached my own conclusions about why that might be. What's your view?

[grahameb]

And what does it take for hartley to mull and re join at  a later stage ?

I depends as to whether Jeremy wins his appeal or not.

[mertol22]

Hartley has deleted his account and returned on a number of occasions. I'm sure he will return on this occasion too, Mertol. It seems to me that Hartley is a member of the forum because he does not wish Jeremy to be granted an Appeal. I have reached my own conclusions about why that might be. What's your view?

Keira there are several conclusions i can think of and they all seem to follow each other on jackie  said it much better than i could the caravan park for a opener, the caravans and the revenue they bring is one thing , the mint the land they are on is quite another, as to Jeremys appeal whatever the outcome im sure hartley will return , but as before nothing to offer the real nature of this case lies elsewhere its all down to money.

[Chochokeira]

I am glad that the ignoramous buffoon is gone, and hope he never returns,
The high and mighty buffoon [Hartley]cared little for any comments that involved the family.
The cocky git even thought that I would appologise to him. [not a chance].
I would even bar him as a guest.
He knows so much because the family feed him[what a prat]
Good riddance Hartley, don't come back as you are a boring git, as well as being a snob who cares for no other opinion.
You are not so high and mighty here. Are you Ann?
Your opinions are not worth a crock of S***. crawl back under your stone Hartley/Steve your  days are done.

I agree with you about Hartley, he's little more than a troll who delights in disrupting the forum by hurling abuse at pro JBs, Mike and mods. When those he attacks are goaded into reciprocating, Hartley does his bleeding heart routine:

"Boo hoo, mods, I'm being attacked by evil Keira, boo hoo, she's obsessed with me. She started it, get her for me, will you? Do for her! Do it before I cry so much I'm forced to delete my account..."

Yuk! Makes my flesh creep.

....okay, mods, I'll come quietly. I apologise. Please don't cuff me too hard, only I have such delicate wrists 

[Roch]

Mertol.............what very wise words!
I agree regarding hartley.This is what I have never been able to make out - he says the family want privacy  and to be able to get on with their lives,but in the next breath he/she is continuosly on the forum,often giving out their private details,and apparantly with their blessing!
hartleys attitude of needing to be right,needing to be in control and refusal to budge with regards to Jeremys guilt appear to echo the personality of AE.I get the impression that this family need Jeremy to be guilty,because for them,the alternative is too catastrophic to contemplate.

 Don't tell Vic 

[Chochokeira]

Apologies, mods. You can cuff me if you like, I'm in such an exuberant mood that I don't care.

We won our case this evening, our protest group here, and it was quite amazing. A year ago, all the odds were stacked against our community. Every single one of our councillors and every party group indicated that they were determined to push through this massive, obscene, high density housing development here, because our council would receive mega millions from the government for doing so. The developers told us that our council had secretly agreed the deal with them and there was nothing we could do to stop it.

The developers are the customary mega rich and powerful consortium. Major shareholders of two of the companies making up the consortium make substantial donations to the governing party. Our council were gagging for it, the government are too, the developers told us that we didn't have a chance, it was in the bag.

Yet this evening we turned our previously hopeless situation around to beat them all! Our excellent campaign forced every political group to support our comunity against the fat cat developers, Our planning committee voted unanimously against the fat cats.

Of course, we now have to fight the developers' Appeal to an Inspector for the Secretary of State and we must bust a gut to beat the fat cats again. I believe we can do it, I have always believed that, because I believe in people power.

Power to the people, power to Jeremy's bid for justice and freedom, with the superb people he has fighting for him, he can do it too!

[grahameb]

Apologies, mods. You can cuff me if you like, I'm in such an exuberant mood that I don't care.

We won our case this evening, our protest group here, and it was quite amazing. A year ago, all the odds were stacked against our community. Every single one of our councillors and every party group indicated that they were determined to push through this massive, obscene, high density housing development here, because our council would receive mega millions from the government for doing so. The developers told us that our council had secretly agreed the deal with them and there was nothing we could do to stop it.

The developers are the customary mega rich and powerful consortium. Major shareholders of two of the companies making up the consortium make substantial donations to the governing party. Our council were gagging for it, the government are too, the developers told us that we didn't have a chance, it was in the bag.

Yet this evening we turned our previously hopeless situation around to beat them all! Our excellent campaign forced every political group to support our comunity against the fat cat developers, Our planning committee voted unanimously against the fat cats.

Of course, we now have to fight the developers' Appeal to an Inspector for the Secretary of State and we must bust a gut to beat the fat cats again. I believe we can do it, I have always believed that, because I believe in people power.

Power to the people, power to Jeremy's bid for justice and freedom, with the superb people he has fighting for him, he can do it too!

That's brilliant news Keira. One in the eye for those mega rich bods who think they are all powerful. In fact in this case they turned out to be powerfool. I hate the kinds of people who use their wealth to bully the weak into submission. Well done one and all.