cloth pull through of guns barrel - unreliable in view of tests

[mike tesko]

And Jeremy..... He's changed the times too....

Jeremy has not changed any times in the way you are trying to imply- I know about this because I engaged him in conversation many times about this feature of the case. One of the problems in this case is that prosecution witnesses gave conflicting times about the timing of the phone calls and at one time or another Jeremy has sought to rely on the timings of one prosecution witness, as opposed to the timings of another prosecution witness, in an effort to try and get to the truth...

That's all there was and is to it, really...

[ngb1066]

You have absolutely no evidence that anyone in Julie's household had taken drugs that night.

Julie told the police she had smoked cannabis in the house that night.

[mike tesko]

You have absolutely no evidence that anyone in Julie's household had taken drugs that night.

Listen very carefully to what I am telling you, please do not try to suggest that the vast majority of Julie Mugfords co lodgers were not drug takers, who did not have any convictions for drug offences, because I have got a copy of all the lodgers Criminal records which formed part of the investigation when Jeremy was under surveillance. Of course, it could be possible that although where Mugford was staying and the other occupants were all convicted druggies, that not one of them took any drugs that night because they obviously knew that Jeremy was going to kill his family, and they would be required as witnesses about the timing of the call he made to Julie to back her story up because they all knew she was going to give evidence against him?

[mike tesko]

Lets get the facts right here...

Mugford lived not in a den of thieves, but a den of druggies...

[vidvic]

Julie told the police she had smoked cannabis in the house that night.

But it wasn't Julie that set the time of the call from Jeremy that the jury believed had occured at around 3am, before Nevill was supposed to call Jeremy. It was the other housemates that set the time?

Don't tell me, this information was witheld before the original trial?

[mike tesko]

I am not going to post information about their criminal records that I have got a copy of, under no circumstances will I do that...

[vidvic]

I am not going to post information about their criminal records that I have got a copy of, under no circumstances will I do that...

Was this information not avaliable to the defence at the original trial? simple question.

[mike tesko]

Was this information not avaliable to the defence at the original trial? simple question.

No...

[mike tesko]

Another thing which most people do not know about (not even Jeremy as far as I know) is that he was under surveillance by the drugs squad on the evening that his family were all killed...

[Buddy]

But it wasn't Julie that set the time of the call from Jeremy that the jury believed had occured at around 3am, before Nevill was supposed to call Jeremy. It was the other housemates that set the time?

Don't tell me, this information was witheld before the original trial?

All this b****** about the jury again. F*** me the jury had to believe that they were being told the truth. Fact is they were not.
I would love the same jury to consider the facts as they now stand. Ibet more than one would change their stance.

[mike tesko]

Julie Mugford was supplying drugs to her co lodgers to sell, or for personal use - police know about this part of her character...

[tyler]

You have absolutely no evidence that anyone in Julie's household had taken drugs that night.

It is common knowledge that Julie and her housemates were all smoking dope and drinking that night.Julie originally set the time of receiving Jeremys phone call at around 3.30am.That was until she had had a little coaching from Stan Jones.

[mike tesko]

Julie Mugford was supplying drugs to her co lodgers to sell, or for personal use - police know about this part of her character...

They knew about Jeremy supplying cannabis and him being sent monies from Scotland to pay for drugs he sent up there...

[andrea]

So it didnt come out in court that was dealing drugs?

[mike tesko]

So it didnt come out in court that was dealing drugs?

No, it didn't come out in court that Jeremy was a small time drugs dealer, not to the extent that the police knew he had been dealing in supplying quantities of cannabis, no...