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Offline grahameb

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2012, 01:22:PM »



Grahame where is the spellchecker? i have seen people using it, but i cant seem to find it. :)
After you make your post it should be at the right hand end of the same line of the word "post"?

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2012, 01:57:PM »
I thought the facial shots were exit wounds? i was under the impression that both twins were shot to the back of the head.


sorry to bump this up, are they exit wounds or not?

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2012, 02:51:PM »

sorry to bump this up, are they exit wounds or not?

Daniel's are exit wounds, Nicholas's are entry wounds.


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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2012, 03:19:PM »
Daniel's are exit wounds, Nicholas's are entry wounds.
Were the twins facing each other, or facing the same way?

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2012, 03:20:PM »
Were the twins facing each other, or facing the same way?

I have not seen any witness statement dealing with that.  It should be shown in the crime scene photographs.


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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2012, 04:03:PM »

How many people are actually killed as a result of an accident in their own home, i think the numbers are quite high, its where most accidents take place.

It could simply be a matter of Taff falling off the ladder, an accident and nothing more, in my opinion.

Grahame where is the spellchecker? i have seen people using it, but i cant seem to find it. :)
Just a coincidence , policeman just about to give evidence for the defense , fall's of step ladder at home and kill's himself , another coincidence Jeremy Bamber kill's four people , while his his paranoid schizophrenic sister is at home , both would be a first in British history , but both just coincidence's !!
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2012, 04:10:PM »
I see you've been watching CSI on TV.? :D

Yes, the CSI bit did cross my mind; however modern CSI & EP (80's style) don't really go together do they ;D

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2012, 04:29:PM »
Mike initially said he would post it, but then very sensibly asked whether it should be sent to Simon McKay rather than be posted on the forum.  Mike agreed to send it to me, which he did as promised yesterday evening.  I do not see any harm in Mike posting the document here.

Sorry I have not been at home all day, so I have not had opportunity to post the document which mentions this report re DCI Jones and the silencer/scenes of crime...

So...

Here it is:-
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2012, 04:36:PM »
The full contents of this report about the silencer and scenes of crime, should be requested because its contents will have a significant bearing on the information which has been released or which has come forward concerning the second silencer, which was under the control of DCI 'Taff' Jones, and PC 'Christopher Whiddon...

According to the official version of events, neither of these two police officers (DCI 'Taff' Jones and PC 'Christopher Whiddon) had any involvement with the silencer before it went to the lab?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2012, 04:42:PM »
Since it has now come to light that a second silencer did exist, which was sent to the lab' on 20th September 1985, even though another silencer had been at the lab' sine 30th August 1985, information which was provided to Ewen Smith in 2003 by a police officer by the Christian name of Dave, or David, everyone will be trying to fathom out who that officer (Dave/David) could be/was?

Let me start the ball rolling, with a suggestion...

DC David Robert Hammersley (SOC)?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2012, 08:15:PM »
The following information should be helpful to all those who genuinely want to know the truth about the silencer, blood and paint evidence. There were in fact two identical looking Parker Hale silencers, which for simplistic reasons I shall refer to as, silencer (1) and silencer (2)...

Silencer (2) was the one found by the relatives, it did not get sent to the lab` to be checked for blood and fibres, until 20th September 1985. It was not actually examined for the very first time until 25th September 1985. Paint from the aga surround was found to be ingrained into its end cap. No blood which was unique and exclusive to Sheila was found inside this (2) silencer. It originally had a grey hair stuck to it when Peter Eaton handed it over to DS 'Stan` Jones on evening of 12th August. It also had a distinctive shiny scratch mark along its edge when examined by David Boutflour at Ann Eatons house on 10th August...

Silencer (2) did not get sent to the lab` on 13th August. It was not fingerprinted by oblique light test on 15th August, nor by superglue on 23rd August. It was not dismantled, rebuilt, and screwed onto the barrel of the rifle by DI 'Ron` Cook, on 29th August, and it was not sent to the lab' for the attention of MDF on 30th August...

A flake of blood was not found inside silencer (2) that was the blood of Sheila...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2012, 08:31:PM »
The following information should be helpful to all those who genuinely want to know the truth about the silencer, blood and paint evidence. There were in fact two identical looking Parker Hale silencers, which for simplistic reasons I shall refer to as, silencer (1) and silencer (2)...

Silencer (2) was the one found by the relatives, it did not get sent to the lab` to be checked for blood and fibres, until 20th September 1985. It was not actually examined for the very first time until 25th September 1985. Paint from the aga surround was found to be ingrained into its end cap. No blood which was unique and exclusive to Sheila was found inside this (2) silencer. It originally had a grey hair stuck to it when Peter Eaton handed it over to DS 'Stan` Jones on evening of 12th August. It also had a distinctive shiny scratch mark along its edge when examined by David Boutflour at Ann Eatons house on 10th August...

Silencer (2) did not get sent to the lab` on 13th August. It was not fingerprinted by oblique light test on 15th August, nor by superglue on 23rd August. It was not dismantled, rebuilt, and screwed onto the barrel of the rifle by DI 'Ron` Cook, on 29th August, and it was not sent to the lab' for the attention of MDF on 30th August...

A flake of blood was not found inside silencer (2) that was the blood of Sheila...

Silencer (1) was the other silencer sent to the lab` on 13th August and 30th August. It got fingerprinted on 15th and 23rd August, and it was dismantled, rebuilt and screwed onto the barrel of the rifle on 29th August 1985...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2012, 08:42:PM »
Essex police were faced with the following dilemma, two different identical looking silencers (1) and ( 2), where blood was associated with (1) and paint from the aga surround associated with the (2) other?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2012, 08:52:PM »
Essex police were faced with the following dilemma, two different identical looking silencers (1) and ( 2), where blood was associated with (1) and paint from the aga surround associated with the (2) other?

They got around this problem by seeking to merge (1 and 2) into the same silencer, which from that point onward became referred to by the identifying mark, DRB/1, and adopting the following course of action:-
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2012, 09:15:PM »
They got around this problem by seeking to merge (1 and 2) into the same silencer, which from that point onward became referred to by the identifying mark, DRB/1, and adopting the following course of action:-

Deny the existence of two silencers, and do not disclose any information about who took silencer (2) to lab` on 20th September 1985?
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