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Re: Keep Life in perspective...
« Reply #165 on: September 26, 2013, 09:30:AM »
Was that intended as a joke? It comes across as somewhat racist.
Reader. This is the comment that made me end this discussion between me and you. The fact that you took my words as not only to be a joke. But also to be racist. I would have thought with the vast intellect that you appear to possess that you would have figured out that my comment was not a joke, neither was it intended to be racist. As you can see modern man has many resources to which he can turn in order to aquire knowledge by the sweat of other men's brows in order to support one argument over another and appear to others that the knowledge acquired was indeed of their own hard toil.

I was rebuked by some that I speak about my own faith as a Christian believer, which they describe by the somewhat generic term "religion". I suspect they refer to it in that way because then they can roam over the entire spectrum of human beliefs in order to ridicule it, wrongly assuming that all so called faiths in the world are the same.
I have by the request of a rather small minority to desist from any reference to my personal faith, except to try and explain certain things when someone mentions any Bible passage. This is not preaching as some seem to think. Preaching is when a person "applies" that Bible verse to another person directly.

Unfortunately I have been sideswiped in underhanded ways in order to goad me into speaking about my faith which I have attempted to resist (I will not explain further as those who make certain remarks know they are doing so to that purpose). But if anyone is interested in Christian things I am obliged to give a reason for the faith that is in me.
For I believe in the doctrines of Grace. You may wish to look up the term T.U.L.I.P so that you be informed as to what I believe.

But coming back to your remark concerning my comment about Einstein. If my comment was in any way "racist" or a joke about Jews then no doubt it would have been deleted. No man can level that accusation against me as it quite simply is not true and the reason why you levelled that somewhat veiled accusation against me may come rather from the depths of your own heart rather than mine?

I must admit to be somewhat confused though that those very people who rat on against me talking about "religion" (their term not mine) are the very people who seem so paranoid that they must bring it up again and again. Even when I say nothing. It does seem a bit one sided doesn't it? That I am forbidden, or berated if I speak about Christian things and yet they can feel free to speak against Christianity whenever the whim comes over them?
But of course they seem to speak about these things understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
For the most part I let them carry on of course feeling no desire to correct their blind fumblings about things they know nothing about. But to be accused of racism and in such a veiled way  even for you is rather lame and designed only to get a reaction from me.

But at that time I made it clear by my absence that this debate was at an end as far as I am concerned. So it is now a conversation between you and yourself. I cease to have any interest in the subject.
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« Reply #166 on: September 26, 2013, 10:01:AM »
So it wasn't a joke then?  ;D

Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree I guess.  :-\ We can't all be right all of the time.

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« Reply #167 on: September 26, 2013, 10:04:AM »
So it wasn't a joke then?  ;D

Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree I guess.  :-\ We can't all be right all of the time.
And no one's perfect either. Particularly me. ;D

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« Reply #168 on: September 26, 2013, 10:08:AM »
And no one's perfect either. Particularly me. ;D

Indeed.  ;)

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« Reply #169 on: September 27, 2013, 10:28:PM »
Grahame, I responded regarding the reasoning in your comment about Einstein, treating it as immaterial whether you were referring to someone famous or someone little-known. Using the words "Jew" and "inbred" in the same sentence can make that sentence seem flippant, and such flippancy, even if unintended, has overtones of racism unless you are intentionally joking.

I wasn't making any kind of veiled attack on your beliefs; I wasn't addressing Calvinism, hadn't read the comments you referred to, and wasn't accusing you of anything. I simply asked whether you were joking, explaining only briefly why I asked, as my immediate preceding post (Reply #160) made it clear that I wasn't attacking you or your faith.

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« Reply #170 on: September 28, 2013, 09:03:AM »
Grahame, I responded regarding the reasoning in your comment about Einstein, treating it as immaterial whether you were referring to someone famous or someone little-known. Using the words "Jew" and "inbred" in the same sentence can make that sentence seem flippant, and such flippancy, even if unintended, has overtones of racism unless you are intentionally joking.

I wasn't making any kind of veiled attack on your beliefs; I wasn't addressing Calvinism, hadn't read the comments you referred to, and wasn't accusing you of anything. I simply asked whether you were joking, explaining only briefly why I asked, as my immediate preceding post (Reply #160) made it clear that I wasn't attacking you or your faith.
Perhaps my coice of the word "inbred" was an unwise choice? What I meant by that was that as a Jew he had the Jewish tradition drummed into him as a child and although he proclaimed himself an agnostic, nevertheless he still had that niggling thought at the back of his mind that there perhaps is a God. For as I seem to recall he used to say things like "Only the Almighty knows". Only a Jew would use expressions such as "The Almighty" when referring to God. But I admit the word "inbred" has taken on other connotations in this modern age. But I was in no way being flippant. I apologise for the confusion.
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Re: Keep Life in perspective...
« Reply #171 on: September 28, 2013, 02:29:PM »
Perhaps my coice of the word "inbred" was an unwise choice? What I meant by that was that as a Jew he had the Jewish tradition drummed into him as a child and although he proclaimed himself an agnostic, nevertheless he still had that niggling thought at the back of his mind that there perhaps is a God. For as I seem to recall he used to say things like "Only the Almighty knows". Only a Jew would use expressions such as "The Almighty" when referring to God. But I admit the word "inbred" has taken on other connotations in this modern age. But I was in no way being flippant. I apologise for the confusion.

Hi Grahame

I recall visiting the Jewish quarter in Prague with my partner some years ago as we entered a Jew (I assume) in traditional dress welcomed those entering before us and asked if they were Jewish.  He looked us up and down and looked away  :'( :'( :'( We are both part Irish and look Irish with dark hair, blue eyes and very fair skin. Certainly don't look Jewish.  Anyway the museum was amazing.  All these instruments and clearly defined rules for circumcision and preparing meat.  Unbelievable. 

A good friend of mine (Welsh) was a pharmacist in Hampstead and she said the Jews were the rudest people she had encountered in her life.  I'm sure they are not all that way.

9/11 (Arabs) bought the financial district of Wall St to its knees.  Then roll on 7 years and the same sort of thing happened with the financial crisis (Jews)  :-\ :-\ :-\

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Re: Keep Life in perspective...
« Reply #172 on: September 28, 2013, 05:34:PM »
Hi Grahame

I recall visiting the Jewish quarter in Prague with my partner some years ago as we entered a Jew (I assume) in traditional dress welcomed those entering before us and asked if they were Jewish.  He looked us up and down and looked away  :'( :'( :'( We are both part Irish and look Irish with dark hair, blue eyes and very fair skin. Certainly don't look Jewish.  Anyway the museum was amazing.  All these instruments and clearly defined rules for circumcision and preparing meat.  Unbelievable. 

A good friend of mine (Welsh) was a pharmacist in Hampstead and she said the Jews were the rudest people she had encountered in her life.  I'm sure they are not all that way.

9/11 (Arabs) bought the financial district of Wall St to its knees.  Then roll on 7 years and the same sort of thing happened with the financial crisis (Jews)  :-\ :-\ :-\
A friend of mine was in London in the early 50's and was walking along a street in Golders Green on a Saturday night and was suddenly approached by two tall gentlemen with beards hats and dark clothing. They asked him to follow them, which he did. They led him down a dark alley and into a house and a darkened room, where he spied in the shadows about 6 other figures all dressed in dark clothing.
They then asked him if he would please switch on the light for them. Which he did. He then learned that they were all traditional Jews who would refrain from doing any work on the Sabbath Day including switching on the light. But it was ok to ask a Gentile to things for them. ;D
Now there's an example where some people need to keep life in perspective.
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« Reply #173 on: July 02, 2014, 10:52:PM »
In fact, logic tells us  that an object only 8000 miles in diameter cannot remain molten at the centre (which the earth is) for millions of years.
That's not the case if the object is internally generating heat all the time, which the earth does through friction and radioactive decay. However, the earth's core is partly molten and partly solid (due to the extreme pressure nearer the centre), despite having a temperature nearing that of the surface of the sun.

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« Reply #174 on: January 07, 2015, 10:20:AM »
Also, logic tells us nothing at all about how long anything can remain molten. Such times are determined from measurements that have been made.

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« Reply #175 on: May 19, 2015, 07:22:PM »
Getting back to Cryptozoology, it has been suggested that 'Unicorn' sightings are related to Elasmotherium.
I see... but then how does one explain the "leviathan", given that "its breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from its mouth"?