significance of long delay between both shots...

[Chochokeira]

Hartley that is totat Boll*****.
A .22 hollow point or otherwise shot to the head is guaranteed to kill.
Where did you pull this gem from.
I suggest you keep away from area,s you know naff all about,
That was a stupid statement IMO.

Hi Cliff,

Good point, Cliff, however, don't be too hard on poor old Hartley, he is a theorist, not a practical man, so there will inevitably be a gap between theory an practice where he is concerned.

You've never fired or even held a gun, have you, Hartley?



Apologies for garbled comments and spelling errors, I'm in my office doing two things at once again

[ngb1066]

I'll just leave that one there for you to look stupid Cliff. 

What is stupid about Cliff's post? 

 

[Hartley]

What is stupid about Cliff's post? 

 

Apart from it being ever so slightly aggressive for no immediately apparent reason, it is also inaccurate.

[ngb1066]

Apart from it being ever so slightly aggressive for no immediately apparent reason, it is also inaccurate.

What is inaccurate about it?

 

[Hartley]

During his 26 years of imprisonment, he has, to my knowledge, never shown any trace of being violent.

Do not rely on your knowledge then.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/KILLER+BAMBER%27S+BROKEN+BOTTLE+JAIL+ATTACK.-a061330122

[Chochokeira]

Do not rely on your knowledge then.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/KILLER+BAMBER%27S+BROKEN+BOTTLE+JAIL+ATTACK.-a061330122

I believe this was self defence, Hartley, as the man had been threatening Jeremy and had launched a violent attack on him. I would think that all of those who live among prisoners, many of whom are lunatics, violent offenders of murderers, would be the subject of an attack at some time or other. However, when Jeremy's Appeal was turned down, a number of his fellow prisoners engaged in a protest with him at the injustice of this.

[Hartley]

I believe this was self defence, Hartley, as the man had been threatening Jeremy and had launched a violent attack on him. I would think that all of those who live among prisoners, many of whom are lunatics, violent offenders of murderers, would be the subject of an attack at some time or other. However, when Jeremy's Appeal was turned down, a number of his fellow prisoners engaged in a protest with him at the injustice of this.

It doesn't matter whether it was in self defence or not, by definition he has been violent.

Regardless it is unimportant, whether he had a history of violence before or after the crimes, or not, does not indicate that he is innocent or guilty.

[Chochokeira]

I believe this was self defence, Hartley, as the man had been threatening Jeremy and had launched a violent attack on him. I would think that all of those who live among prisoners, many of whom are lunatics, violent offenders of murderers, would be the subject of an attack at some time or other. However, when Jeremy's Appeal was turned down, a number of his fellow prisoners engaged in a protest with him at the injustice of this.

Also, there is no attribution for this report that I can see. Where does the report come from - a red top such as the much sued Sun, a former editor of which admits he wanted sensational headlines at any price?

[Chochokeira]

It doesn't matter whether it was in self defence or not, by definition he has been violent.

Regardless it is unimportant, whether he had a history of violence before or after the crimes, or not, does not indicate that he is innocent or guilty.

Hartley, I come from a line of conscientious objectors. I'm totally non-violent and totally opposed to violence. Yet if you attacked me with a home made knife, I'd rip your bl**dy head off.


I am of course speaking figuratively 

[Buddy]

Apart from it being ever so slightly aggressive for no immediately apparent reason, it is also inaccurate.

I did not intend to sound aggresive Hartley, and apologise if that is what came across, but that was a ridiculous statement.
On the other hand are you now agreeing that Sheila was quite capable of walking around with merely a neck wound.
You can't have it both ways Harts.

[Hartley]

I did not intend to sound aggresive Hartley, and apologise if that is what came across, but that was a ridiculous statement.
On the other hand are you now agreeing that Sheila was quite capable of walking around with merely a neck wound.
You can't have it both ways Harts.

I'm not admitting or denying anything, I, along with a few others were simply discussing an aspect of the case, stop acting like a clown.

Type something like 'survived being shot in head' or 'survived being shot in head by .22', into google and you will immediately see that you are inaccurate with your aggressive 'bol***' (your word) post.

And again, it doesn't matter, it was not an important part of what was being discussed.

With regards to Sheila, I have no idea, I wasn't there, however Mike informed us all some 10 months ago that there wasn't much of a gap between shots as per the pathologists trial evidence, yet he is now saying that isn't true and there was a long delay. Either way around, he is telling you fibs, either now, or 10 months ago.

[Buddy]

I'm not admitting or denying anything, I, along with a few others were simply discussing an aspect of the case, stop acting like a clown.

Type something like 'survived being shot in head' or 'survived being shot in head by .22', into google and you will immediately see that you are inaccurate with your aggressive 'bol***' (your word) post.

And again, it doesn't matter, it was not an important part of what was being discussed.

With regards to Sheila, I have no idea, I wasn't there, however Mike informed us all some 10 months ago that there wasn't much of a gap between shots as per the pathologists trial evidence, yet he is now saying that isn't true and there was a long delay. Either way around, he is telling you fibs, either now, or 10 months ago.

Please stop trying to degenerate my posts by implying that I am a clown.
Get off your very high horse, and treat people with the respect they accord you.
Talk about being pompious!

[Hartley]

Please stop trying to degenerate my posts by implying that I am a clown.
Get off your very high horse, and treat people with the respect they accord you.
Talk about being pompious!

Again, another post which you manage to make yourself look stupid without any input from me.

[Hartley]

Also, there is no attribution for this report that I can see. Where does the report come from - a red top such as the much sued Sun, a former editor of which admits he wanted sensational headlines at any price?

The Mirror, as it happens, but that is also unimportant.

[Buddy]

Again, another post which you manage to make yourself look stupid without any input from me.

Again another post to make you look like a pompious buffoon.