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Offline SUMMER

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I have just read Mr Wager's statement about the trapdoor which could be
accessed by climbing onto the roof of White House Farm from front or back and which led into one
of the bedrooms!
I  could hardly believe what I was reading!
The trapdoor could be secured from the inside of the Farm House.
Could that be the way that the killer entered the Farm House that night, or earlier in the day and
then hid?
Was there a way that the trapdoor could be left undone?
I have never read anything in Ann Eaton's statements making reference to the trapdoor method
of gaining entry or exit to the Farm House - yet she knew all about the dodgy downstairs window
method.
Does anyone know why there was a trapdoor on the roof of White House Farm?
What was its purpose?
Which bedroom did it give access to?
I am just amazed that this trapdoor existed! ???

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 09:40:PM »
well if an outside intruder wished to credibly make it look a suicide there could be no signs of a break so get in that way could of been an option.

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 12:06:AM »

nugnug, I know that there was a cellar which could be accessed from outside the Farm House
which also gave access to the House - now add to this a trapdoor into one of the bedrooms too!
Given the chaotic state of the back spiral staircase and the array of guns that seemed to be lieing about under piles of junk - do you think the Bamber's were capable of checking every entry point each night into
White House Farm?
What a weird  and eccentric household it seems to have been.
Any answers from anyone as to whose bedroom the trapdoor gave entry to? :o

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 12:15:AM »

nugnug, I know that there was a cellar which could be accessed from outside the Farm House
which also gave access to the House - now add to this a trapdoor into one of the bedrooms too!
Given the chaotic state of the back spiral staircase and the array of guns that seemed to be lieing about under piles of junk - do you think the Bamber's were capable of checking every entry point each night into
White House Farm?
What a weird  and eccentric household it seems to have been.
Any answers from anyone as to whose bedroom the trapdoor gave entry to? :o

It wasn't anybodies bedroom.

The spiral stair from the kitchen goes to the first floor, at the top of the stair you can turn right and go onto the main landing, or turn left and enter a tiny room, almost an alcove, where a loft hatch is located.

Once up in the loft, there is a trapdoor between rafters, think of it as a plywood velux rooflight, giving access to the roof to allow the lead valley gutter to be cleared out. This access is/was secured from the inside, in the loft space.

Hopefully that gives you a better understanding?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 12:17:AM by Hartley »

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 12:16:AM »
but how many people would know they could get in that way

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 12:18:AM »
but how many people would know they could get in that way

They would also need to figure out how to get onto the roof in the first place.

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 09:32:AM »
They would also need to figure out how to get onto the roof in the first place.
Or to get off it if they were already in the house.

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 09:36:AM »
Or to get off it if they were already in the house.

Yes of course.

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 09:44:AM »
Or to get off it if they were already in the house.


No problem for JB: levitation. Well he did after all levitate himself on his mother's sit up an beg bike - you know, just like ET - along the treacherous, overgrown, crumbling sea wall between Goldhanger and Tolleshunt D'Arcy...didn't he...?

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 09:48:AM »
Because, given the police's own impossibly tight timings of how long this would have taken JB on foot, levitation was surely the only way that he could have done it in the time!
« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 09:56:AM by Chochokeira »

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 09:50:AM »
And another moderately sensible discussion bites the dust.  ::)

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:AM »

No problem for JB: levitation. Well he did after all levitate himself on his mother's sit up an beg bike - you know, just like ET - along the treacherous, overgrown, crumbling sea wall between Goldhanger and Tolleshunt D'Arcy...didn't he...?
Is that Macdonald on the front?

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 09:52:AM »
And another moderately sensible discussion bites the dust.  ::)
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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 10:57:PM »

I have just read Mr Wager's statement about the trapdoor which could be
accessed by climbing onto the roof of White House Farm from front or back and which led into one
of the bedrooms!
I  could hardly believe what I was reading!
The trapdoor could be secured from the inside of the Farm House.
Could that be the way that the killer entered the Farm House that night, or earlier in the day and
then hid?
Was there a way that the trapdoor could be left undone?
I have never read anything in Ann Eaton's statements making reference to the trapdoor method
of gaining entry or exit to the Farm House - yet she knew all about the dodgy downstairs window
method.
Does anyone know why there was a trapdoor on the roof of White House Farm?
What was its purpose?
Which bedroom did it give access to?
I am just amazed that this trapdoor existed! ???
Hello Summer, I think this Trapdoor would have been very unwise as a method of entry, if the person fell or slipped while up there, and the chance they would have been seen or heard,now this cycle bothers me a bit,im trying to work out how could you use this bike without getting a puncture ive never seen a picture of it so i will guess its a 26 inch wheel size a 3-speed sturemy archer, where did June use the bike to go where?,

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Re: Trapdoor situated on roof leading into White House Farm bedroom?
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 08:51:PM »
The door in the roof was locked from the inside. How would anybody leaving the house that way be able to secure it upon exit? Same argument for the cellar. I was under the impression that the police had established that all windows, doors etc to the property were secure.