Author Topic: And so to the truth of the matter (how Sheila communicated with police)?  (Read 15115 times)

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Jackiepreece

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Sounds like attention to detail by the defence

Offline mike tesko

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What I am saying, is that references to a dog barking in any of the disclosed material, covering that hour long period between 5:25am and 6:30am, may not necessarily relate to the dog barking...

Now...

You are all free to think what you want, but I would strongly advise everyone to proceed with care, because Essex police "cannot be trusted" in how the so called evidence has been produced in this case...

The truth has definitely not yet been told by the police...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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What I am saying, is that references to a dog barking in any of the disclosed material, covering that hour long period between 5:25am and 6:30am, may not necessarily relate to the dog barking...

Now...

You are all free to think what you want, but I would strongly advise everyone to proceed with care, because Essex police "cannot be trusted" in how the so called evidence has been produced in this case...

The truth has definitely not yet been told by the police...
Will the truth ever come out in your opinion ?

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Will the truth ever come out in your opinion ?
Just like a guilty Adam and Eve they're hiding something, or they would not hold so much back after being asked so many times for it. If those PII files show nothing then why bother to hide them? That's the bit that intrigues me?

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Generally speaking, what I am saying is that references to a dog barking, should be treated as a possible reference to exchanges and communications made by Sheila with firearms officers at the scene. Now these exchanges were not made on a direct one to one basis, but were responses made by Sheila to challenges being made to the occupants of the farmhouse, by the firearms officers, which Sheila did respond to, during a one hour period between 5;25am and 6;30am...

The truth of the matter is, from what I have been told, is that (1) police made challenges to the farmhouse using a loud hailer, and (2) Sheila gave responses, which have been recorded in the disclosed logs as a dog barking, but the fact is that police at the scene did not hear these responses directly, only via the telephone eavesdrop which had been patched through to them at the scene by the operator. Now the information I have received, is that Sheila was not to know that the firearms officers outside the farmhouse could not hear her responses directly, and that they only heard them through the patched up eavesdrop, as described...

This is part of the information I have been provided with...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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Will the truth ever come out in your opinion ?

Yes...

I believe we are on the verge of the truth finally coming out, regarding these exchanges, and what kept the firearms officers from getting into the farmhouse before 7:30am...

I have been told that somebody linked to this case, who is representing Jeremy's interests, is on the threshold of uncovering the missing evidential link, but only time will tell if what I have been told proves to be correct...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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One of the problems linked to this matter is that there was a dog inside whf, which did bark from time to time, but this dog could not be heard to be barking by the police outside the farmhouse in the grounds, only and except via the eavesdrop, which had been set up by the operator...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:09:PM by mike tesko »
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To understand what actually took place, we need to understand how different parties at the scene and elsewhere communicated with each other?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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To understand what actually took place, we need to understand how different parties at the scene and elsewhere communicated with each other?

For example...

The contents of the disclosed log, thus far, relate to communications from the scene between the occupants of CA07 and the control room - all the other communications and records are being withheld under pii...

thank you...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:13:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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For example...

The contents of the disclosed log, thus far, relate to communications from the scene between the occupants of CA07 and the control room - all the other communications and records are being withheld under pii...

thank you...

Lets get something right, the occupants of CA07 did not enter the farmhouse, nor were they involved directly in containment duties at the scene as part of the firearms operation which started off and continued from 5am, onwards...

Don't let this distract everyone from what the police did, and what they got up to, and why they have taken the action they have taken to keep what they did under wraps for over 26 years...

Lets get the facts right, Sheila died at the scene as a result of the firearms teams incompetence, not because Jeremy shot her dead in the bedroom and stage managed her body to make it look like she had taken her own life?

lets get the facts right...

The forearms officers  who first entered the farmhouse, did not stage manage Sheila's body either, the stage managing came later, once all but three of the firearms officers, had left the scene...

Jeremy Bamber is truly innocent, no matter what anybody says to the contrary...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:22:PM by mike tesko »
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To understand what actually took place, we need to understand how different parties at the scene and elsewhere communicated with each other?

Why is it, that the only account which has so far been disclosed, involves messages that were passed from the scene to the control room, by the occupants of CA07?
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:26:PM by mike tesko »
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Essex police are somewhat reluctant to disclose the other logs, because to do so would establish that they knew Sheila was still very much alive, and that she did not actually die in the bedroom until an occasion after the raid team entered the farmhouse, and to be even more specific, that the second shot was not inflicted under Sheila's chin, until an occasion after the police surgeon, Dr Craig (accompanied by PI 'Bob' Miller) had already confirmed her as being dead (:44am)...

fact is...

Sheila was not dead, and she only had one wound on her neck/throat by that stage...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:32:PM by mike tesko »
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Sheila was certainly responding to challenges made by firearms officers to the occupants of the farmhouse,  during that crucial one hour period between about 5:25am and 6:30am, and responding to the challenges made by police during that period...

This is what kept the firearms team from making an attempt to get into the farmhouse before 7:30am...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Sheila was certainly responding to challenges made by firearms officers to the occupants of the farmhouse,  during that crucial one hour period between about 5:25am and 6:30am, and responding to the challenges made by police during that period...

This is what kept the firearms team from making an attempt to get into the farmhouse before 7:30am...

Up until that point (6:30am)...

police did not think that Sheila had shot or killed anyone...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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And Jeremy, what, 50m away?, knew nothing about any of this??

None of the police outside heard any of this?

The only way of knowing was through the phone link?
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