Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse

[mike tesko]

Shaw has information about the identities of police officers who were present at the scene, who can verify if approached that Sheila was still very much alive, and that in response to challenges by the police using a loud hailer, that Sheila was screaming obscenities and ranting and raving...

Should Shaw identify those partiular officers, and if they were approached and were prepared to tell the truth, then of course the game would be up...

[mike tesko]

Shaw has information about the identities of police officers who were present at the scene, who can verify if approached that Sheila was still very much alive, and that in response to challenges by the police using a loud hailer, that Sheila was screaming obscenities and ranting and raving...

Should Shaw identify those partiular officers, and if they were approached and were prepared to tell the truth, then of course the game would be up...

At that stage, if such officers provided that information, as I say,"Game over"...

[Hartley]

call him liar and see where that gets you?

I don't need to call anybody a liar, in fact there is no evidence that it is what he even said to you, it is certainly not included in his manuscript, in fact his manuscript completely contradicts such an allegation.

The point being, is if you say something is the case, then people want to see proof that you are telling the truth. Whatever your reasons for doing so, you cannot argue that you have always told the truth on this forum, you can't even pretend that to be the case.

[grahameb]

Sorry to go back-over but I don't think Hartley is who people think he might be.  Therefore any attempt to expose his ID might back-fire.

I've no idea who he is? All I know is that folk know who I am. And I know who I am.............I think?

[mike tesko]

Jeremy Bamber is innocent, he was framed by his relatives, and a set of corrupted police officers, who sought to cover up for the mistakes they made during the investigation. At the heart of this investigation was DS 'Stan' Jones, in the pay of the relatives, who falsified entries into a pocketbook that was tamered with. DS Jones is/was a crook and he should be prosecuted and sent to jail, like all those who falsified evidence in this case to get Jeremy convicted for committing offences that he simply could not have committed...

DS Jones can take me to court any time. I have evidence to prove he was /is a pathological liar, a piece of shit, and a despicable liar. He will need to prove he did not take possession of exhivbits SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, at the scene before 9th August 1985, if he thinks he can take me to court and get compensation out of me - I will win hands down or up...

He is a lying corrupted evil scum-bag...

He deserves to be locked up in jail, in my opinion, I look forward to fucking him up good style at any future Civil court proceedings...

[mike tesko]

Jeremy Bamber is innocent, he was framed by his relatives, and a set of corrupted police officers, who sought to cover up for the mistakes they made during the investigation. At the heart of this investigation was DS 'Stan' Jones, in the pay of the relatives, who falsified entries into a pocketbook that was tamered with. DS Jones is/was a crook and he should be prosecuted and sent to jail, like all those who falsified evidence in this case to get Jeremy convicted for committing offences that he simply could not have committed...

DS Jones can take me to court any time. I have evidence to prove he was /is a pathological liar, a piece of shit, and a despicable liar. He will need to prove he did not take possession of exhivbits SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, at the scene before 9th August 1985, if he thinks he can take me to court and get compensation out of me - I will win hands down or up...

He is a lying corrupted evil scum-bag...

He deserves to be locked up in jail, in my opinion, I look forward to fucking him up good style at any future Civil court proceedings...

Fuck the then DPP, Mr Adams, also a fucking criminal, IN MY OPINION...

We have got to stop taking this sort of shit from these people who think they are all high and mighty, they are criminals, the lot of them...

[Chochokeira]

Yeah I'd go along with that at a stretch. 

Idiot
A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

Mike's using the term in the colloquial sense that most of us would understand, defined by the urban Dictionary as:

"A foolish or stupid person."

Hard to dsiagree with that.

[Hartley]

Mike's using the term in the colloquial sense that most of us would understand, defined by the urban Dictionary as:

"A foolish or stupid person."

Hard to dsiagree with that.

Again, entirely unnecessary, but thank you for conveying your opinion. 

[mike tesko]

There is no evidence at all that jeremy killed anyone...

Its all in the prosecutions, and the relatives, and the police, and Mugfords, imagination...

[mike tesko]

Police and CPS should disclose the audio recordings to prove that Sheilah was not screaming and ranting and raving when firearms officers used the loud hailer...

They won't do that, because they know that Sheila can be heard to be screaming and ranting and raving...

[mike tesko]

How come, no-one has contacted David Shaw, and how come no -one is saying that what he told me, and what is in the transcript of his book is false and misleading?

[grahameb]

How come, no-one has contacted David Shaw, and how come no -one is saying that what he told me, and what is in the transcript of his book is false and misleading?

Hi Mike. Do you have Shaw's contact details please?

[Hartley]

How come, no-one has contacted David Shaw, and how come no -one is saying that what he told me, and what is in the transcript of his book is false and misleading?

Probably because nobody really cares, his work is unreferenced let alone unpublished and carries no weight.

If you want to use him or his work to back up your argument then the onus is on you to provide supporting evidence, not other people who you are trying to convince (or in my opinion mislead).

[tonyb]

You've lost me, explain.

sorry Andrea, What some people think is JB is not Not Guilty,when in fact he was found so,therefore he is. the challenge is to prove he is not,not to state without evidence his is not guilty

[grahameb]

Probably because nobody really cares, his work is unreferenced let alone unpublished and carries no weight.

If you want to use him or his work to back up your argument then the onus is on you to provide supporting evidence, not other people who you are trying to convince (or in my opinion mislead).

Maybe, but he can always be questioned and asked where he got certain bits of information and a possible link could be obtained that way?