Police did not only move Sheila's hand, to photograph marks on Nightdress...

[Aunt Agatha]

I'm not avoiding anything, some allegations are so ridiculous and based on nothing, that there is no discussion to take place,no document to refer to, no argument to be had.

What I am finding slightly amusing, is that it appears to me that you have stopped discussing the case in favour of discussing forum members with opposing views. Perhaps amusing is the wrong word, but it seems that you were once reasonable and respectful, yet now you are not. It's the sort of thing other people come out with, not you.
If I am away from the forum, have not posted for a while or have not posted in a particular thread, please don't mould that into some sort of smug victory, when the reality is that I simply went out for dinner. 

I do have a great deal of respect for you Rochy, hence why I have shared with you what I have, but I must admit, all of this concentration on individuals or groups of individuals with opposing views, is out of character to that person who I garnered such respect for.

I don't get it. If you have a question to ask then fire away, if it is asked politely with a certain amount of respectfulness then you will get a reply accordingly, if it is not, then you may also get a reply accordingly. 

I must agree........such ill respect does not bode well for this forum.  Attack the argument for sure...but keep away from personal comments.  Please.....

[boheme]

In my opinion the killer had to have 2 shots as Sheila moved during the first shot, therefore it required a second shot to be sure she was dead - I just can't believe she shot herself in the kitchen and then went up to the bedroom (or that the Police moved her from the kitchen to the bedroom - why would they ?) for a second attempt to kill herself. She was killed in the bedroom, the body was staged managed by her killer to look like suicide and it almost worked.....

[Newbury1]

It doesn't bother me in the slightest.  I just think it's amusing when posters from either side deliberately avoid posting on something because they're probably on a hiding to nothing.

Or they either can't be bothered, don't have the time or actually have something better to do!

Some posters have clearly got more time to post than others 

I am amazed at some of the thread headlines and content. The detail sometimes is so elaborate that no way can I follow it and 9 times out of 10 there is no supporting evidence - it's just theories (and there are some good ones), but some treat their theories like fact, and god forbid you challenge it (and I am a neutral).

Campaigning for anything so strongly can turn obsessional, and this can turn into a form a fanaticism IMO 

Having joined the Forum on 6 December 2010 I am now finding it is on a repeat cycle 

[Roch]

   Or they avoid it because they're on a hiding to nothing.  And I did say posters from either side.

[vidvic]

  Or they avoid it because they're on a hiding to nothing.  And I did say posters from either side.

as I just posted on another thread, unless you reign in the attack dogs, you will never get open debate from new members. The personal abuse is only for the thickest of skins....
Obviously I am not referring to you Roch as you've always treated me with respect.

[Newbury1]

  Or they avoid it because they're on a hiding to nothing.  And I did say posters from either side.

Cool - i just made my point and stuck it on yours. My comment was not meant to undermine or contradict yours!

[ngb1066]

as I just posted on another thread, unless you reign in the attack dogs, you will never get open debate from new members. The personal abuse is only for the thickest of skins....
Obviously I am not referring to you Roch as you've always treated me with respect.

I agree that we should all show respect for other forum members, whatever their viewpoint.  As has been said many times before, attack the argument (vigorously if necessary) but not the person.  From both viewpoints on this case we have been guilty of making personal attacks.  It is probably inevitable that this will happen from time to time as the case understandably generates very strong feelings on both sides.  I would like members to feel free to express their viewpoint without fear of being personally attacked.  I do not believe that heavy moderation of the forum is the answer.  I think self moderation is the best form of moderation, save in extreme circumstances.

 

[Roch]

Cool - i just made my point and stuck it on yours. My comment was not meant to undermine or contradict yours!

All valid points you made Nick.

[vidvic]

Nick, no offence taken or meant. I was backing up your good point.

I have been told that Myself and Hartley are the only biased members of the forum..... That everyone else only seeks the truth.......Now that IS funny.........

[Roch]

as I just posted on another thread, unless you reign in the attack dogs, you will never get open debate from new members. The personal abuse is only for the thickest of skins....
Obviously I am not referring to you Roch as you've always treated me with respect.

Thanks.  I don't mean to be disrespectful to Hartley.  Like I say, at times it's difficult not to direct posts to him, since Hartley can be a lone voice on here.  It probably comes down to a matter of wording. If I spot the 'tactics' I mentioned, I will politely ask about them.

[tonyb]

Hartley you might be falling prey to becoming a bit sensitive. 

You are a bit of a player in that you use certain repetitive 'tactics' at times, imo.    Then you let fly and remonstrate, when those same tactics draw in a little heat from the posters on my side.  It's also difficult not to address posts to you, when you are virtually the only 'opposition' on here. 

If I had a question relating to this thread, it would be around the bedding.  I find it very puzzling. 

I hope nobody responds with 'camera angles'.

sorry for the late reply..... The bedding,are you reffering to the movement of the patterened throw from the foot of the bed?

[andrea]

NGB read your pm's please!

[ngb1066]

NGB read your pm's please!

Reply sent Andrea.