The person seen running away a 2nd look

[mertol22]

The police are well paid for a service they seem unable to provide, time we had the role of the police questioned and in time replaced with a all armed cross european one, whoever that person was that night is involved in some way or another until its established why they were there i will hold this view.

[mertol22]

An accomplice  Sheila knew , for Jeremy to be innocent Sheila could have only carried out the shootings, could she have overpowered 2 adults? if Jeremy had recieved the call from Ralph then its possible all but one person was still alive .
there is no concrete proof of Jeremy using a gun that night , only what mugford said.

[mike tesko]

Rumours were rife once the nature of the investigation changed from SC/688/85 into SC/786/85 - some were suggesting that the scruffy looking hunched up man who was seen to be walking away from the scene about an hour after police first arrived could have been Sheila's boy friend, Freddie Emani

[Buddy]

Not too sure about Freddie, but it seems from statements that it was common knowlege among the family that a spare key was kept in the garage.

[Buddy]

Is it known if RWB, or AE kept diaries prior to the slayings, because they refer to them a lot post the murders. RWB, and AE seem to forget certain things, so I assume they could not consult their diaries which would suggest they never had one until after the murders.
For instance AE could have checked her diary to remind herself what cop said that June, and Sheila were on the bed, instead of saying I cannot remember.
For such copious writers it seems a little inept.

[mertol22]

Mike i tell you now Jeremy Bamber did not kill his family, i agree with you its all a pack of lies, this person seen walking/running away is connected in some way, Sheila im sure was alive when the police met Jeremy at WHF and that means Jeremy is innocent, more than anything else this case offers its that person that bothers me most, what were they doing there at that time of night.

[Buddy]

Mike i tell you now Jeremy Bamber did not kill his family, i agree with you its all a pack of lies, this person seen walking/running away is connected in some way, Sheila im sure was alive when the police met Jeremy at WHF and that means Jeremy is innocent, more than anything else this case offers its that person that bothers me most, what were they doing there at that time of night.

I cannot buy into the hunched up walking/running/ skulking/ figure having anything to do with the murders,
If another person was involved they would have gone long before the police arrived at the scene.
Anyway can you explain how they left the house locked and secure. I would have thought that they/him would beat a hasty retreat after the slayings, and not strolling away after locking up. What would be the point?
Just a thought. What if a family member was having some sort of affair with sheila? It does seem she was a tad promiscuous.What if this family member was discovered by Ralph in a compromising situation.
It is a fact that Sheila had food in her stomach, so she must of ate later than the rest of the family.
Why was Sheila up so late? Did she admit someone into the house in the early hours? Was there some sort of row, and Sheila was going to blow the whistle on the affair?
I have been racking my brains to think of a family member who fits the bill to no avail. Perhaps you can help me?

[Roch]

Is it known if RWB, or AE kept diaries prior to the slayings, because they refer to them a lot post the murders. RWB, and AE seem to forget certain things, so I assume they could not consult their diaries which would suggest they never had one until after the murders.
For instance AE could have checked her diary to remind herself what cop said that June, and Sheila were on the bed, instead of saying I cannot remember.
For such copious writers it seems a little inept.

It's like Adrian Mole meets Bridget Jones.  Is Bridget Jones related to Stan Jones by any chance? 

[Buddy]

Glad you are alive and kicking Dave. Most probably Vinnie Jones.

[mertol22]

why would Colin ask in his book if the person would ever be found.

[Buddy]

why would Colin ask in his book if the person would ever be found.

Grasping at straws springs to mind.
I do not mean to be condescending and appolgise if it comes across this way.

[grahameb]

There is no documentation regarding this figure, seen by witnesses (more than one).  This has been why I have continued to ask...'why?'

No investigation whatsoever was made into this person at all........which gives rise to the question.....who told EP to ignore this line of inquiry?'   And again - 'why?'

My feeling is that orders came from above to ignore it........

I am inclined to agree with you. I was just about to comment to that effect when I saw your post.
If indeed there was a hunched up figure seen walking away, could I say that whoever thought that up had probably been watching the movie "The Fugitive" the previous night and got it muddled in their mind so they thought it was real.
Could I suggest that if the police had taken it seriously they would most certainly have made serious enquiries into it?

[grahameb]

Is it known if RWB, or AE kept diaries prior to the slayings, because they refer to them a lot post the murders. RWB, and AE seem to forget certain things, so I assume they could not consult their diaries which would suggest they never had one until after the murders.
For instance AE could have checked her diary to remind herself what cop said that June, and Sheila were on the bed, instead of saying I cannot remember.
For such copious writers it seems a little inept.

All she had to do was to refer to her statement.

[grahameb]

I cannot buy into the hunched up walking/running/ skulking/ figure having anything to do with the murders,
If another person was involved they would have gone long before the police arrived at the scene.
Anyway can you explain how they left the house locked and secure. I would have thought that they/him would beat a hasty retreat after the slayings, and not strolling away after locking up. What would be the point?
Just a thought. What if a family member was having some sort of affair with sheila? It does seem she was a tad promiscuous.What if this family member was discovered by Ralph in a compromising situation.
It is a fact that Sheila had food in her stomach, so she must of ate later than the rest of the family.
Why was Sheila up so late? Did she admit someone into the house in the early hours? Was there some sort of row, and Sheila was going to blow the whistle on the affair?
I have been racking my brains to think of a family member who fits the bill to no avail. Perhaps you can help me?

Apparently the extra key in the shed or whatever, (I can't remember were it was kept now?) was missing from its usual place? Does anyone know if the key was in the lock on the inside of the door or not? Because I have read somewhere that the door was locked from the inside?

[smiffy]

Apparently the extra key in the shed or whatever, (I can't remember were it was kept now?) was missing from its usual place? Does anyone know if the key was in the lock on the inside of the door or not? Because I have read somewhere that the door was locked from the inside?

As the door in question and its lock had been changed not too long before the killings the comments about a spare key kept in the garage do not apply. There were not enouigh spare keys for that.
The comments about the spare key , even if true, only applied to the previous door and lock that were fitted.

While on the subject of the door.
Ann in her statement made a great fuss of finding a piece of paper stuffed into the inner keyhole of the door when she went there (supposedly) on the saturday morning. Quite why is perverse in the extreme for it was she who was tasked by the police to arrange for a door to be fitted after the police had broken open the previous door. So if anyone knew it was a new door ..it should have been Ann and she should have know that piece of paper was nothing to do with the incident.
Was she so desperate to frame JB she would say or do anything to try making things and him look suspicious that she even got muddled over that?