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mertol22

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1800 on: December 10, 2011, 01:04:AM »
I dont know for sure Andrea, things are not as they seem, im starting to think we have all missed something yet its been there all the time, im working on it.

andrea

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1801 on: December 10, 2011, 01:05:AM »
So you are saying that it is impossible that someone would commit suicide on the floor because you have not seen it?


I think hes just saying that he never came across anyone who had committed suicde while laying on the floor. Its not impossible though.

chochokeira

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« Reply #1802 on: December 10, 2011, 01:11:AM »
i have perhaps moved 50 people who have taken their own life  some days ago some within the hour, some still warm, most if not all those deceased have been in a position of relaxation including a bed, lied down on a floor i do not think i ever came across such a time.



Didn't Sylvia Plath - former poet Laureate, Ted Hughes' wife - lie down on the floor with her head in the gas oven?
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mertol22

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1803 on: December 10, 2011, 01:11:AM »
It means Hartley if this picture exists it changes everything, the 1st thing it does is remove Jeremy out of this full stop, im sure you will agree if Jeremy was the one and he did it for the money it clearly did not work.It could never work, there would still be relatives , Jeremy Bamber to me sounds highly educated, sound rational, ive worked along side the police but im sorry i dont trust them.

andrea

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1804 on: December 10, 2011, 01:12:AM »
She couldnt have gassed herself any other way i dont suppose, using an oven.

Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1805 on: December 10, 2011, 01:14:AM »
I know it's not impossible Andrea but look at it this way. Police storm in and find Sheila on the bed.  At that point nobody suspected JB of murder. So why move Sheila on to the floor to look like suicide? Did Sheila on the bed not look like suicide? Why not?

chochokeira

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1806 on: December 10, 2011, 01:14:AM »
She couldnt have gassed herself any other way i dont suppose, using an oven.


That's the thing, necessity really is the mother of invention.

mertol22

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1807 on: December 10, 2011, 01:16:AM »
So you are saying that it is impossible that someone would commit suicide on the floor because you have not seen it?
Not for a moment, i just never was present in such a case, i have multiple issues with Sheilas position but i dont want to elaborate too much i have to respect decorum for mikes forum, im on about what happens after someone takes their life.

andrea

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1808 on: December 10, 2011, 01:19:AM »
I know it's not impossible Andrea but look at it this way. Police storm in and find Sheila on the bed.  At that point nobody suspected JB of murder. So why move Sheila on to the floor to look like suicide? Did Sheila on the bed not look like suicide? Why not?


Not a clue Takeshi, we have no proof that she was ever on the bed anyway.

Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1809 on: December 10, 2011, 01:20:AM »
In your opinion, who someone was staging another's suicide, and having no prior knowledge,would they place a body on the bed or on the floor?

andrea

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1810 on: December 10, 2011, 01:21:AM »
well if i was staging a suicide i would put them on the bed.

Offline Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1811 on: December 10, 2011, 01:22:AM »
Me too Andrea!

mertol22

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1812 on: December 10, 2011, 01:24:AM »
In your opinion, who someone was staging another's suicide, and having no prior knowledge,would they place a body on the bed or on the floor?
Something went badly wrong im sure at the point the firearms team stormed the rear of the farm on around or on 07.30 that morning, im puzzled why they did not use both doorsfront and rear.

andrea

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1813 on: December 10, 2011, 01:25:AM »
well if i was staging a suicide i would put them on the bed.


same as if i was staging one in aliving room, i would put them on the couch or a chair, preferably the couch!!

Hartley

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« Reply #1814 on: December 10, 2011, 01:27:AM »
I think it's 6 and two 3's.

So if a suicide was staged, the bed is best.
If a suicide occurred, the bed is best.
If the police moved and staged her body, again the bed is best.

Yet she is on the floor.

I think you could tie yourself in knots with this and not come to any particularly logical conclusion.