you should all know this?

[Blodwynflower]

Mike, how did you get on today?

Thankyou.

[mike tesko]

Mike, how did you get on today?

Thankyou.

I am still travelling back...

Everything went well, I will tell all later, and post a few pictures - its been a long day, but a very fruitful one...

[Blodwynflower]

Mike, how did you get on today?

Thankyou.

I am still travelling back...

Everything went well, I will tell all later, and post a few pictures - its been a long day, but a very fruitful one...

I shall look forward to it, take care Mike.

[mike tesko]

Had an in-depth conversation about the DNA evidence which formed part and parcel of the 2002 appeal bid -  it seems there were problems obtaining a 100% profile for each of the three adult victims, Ralph, June and Sheila? To get around this problem, DNA swabs were taken from close relatives, such as Pamela Boutflour, the Pargeter family, and Sheila Caffells natural mother?

Why go to all this bother, if the ashes from the cremations of the three adult victims, were buried at Tolleshunt D`arcy, and at Highgate cemetery?

Informant has told me today, that there is no guarantee that the cremation ashes handed over in the names of Ralph, June, and or Sheila, belonged exclusively to them? Hence the reason why samples of cremation ashes, were not relied on to check DNA evidence found inside the silencer, at the 2002 appeal?

Please visit following link address:- (1) http://www.ehow.com/facts_7632747_ashes-mixed-during-cremation-process.html

[mike tesko]

Informant discussed with me the fact that not all the bullet/fragments were recovered from the bodies of the child victims, and his view that if the bodies were exhumed, and the missing pieces of bullet recovered, it would establish that a different weapon had fired some of the shots, that killed them? He said that it would also be possible upon examining such pieces of bullet, to identify who manufactured them, and if they formed part of the same batch of Eley .22 LR subsonic hollow point ammunition, which is supposed to be the sole source of the crime scene ammunition?

[mike tesko]

Visit to Edinburgh, 2nd December 2011:-

Edinburgh Castle, and the "stone of destiny"...

[Buddy]

Informant discussed with me the fact that not all the bullet/fragments were recovered from the bodies of the child victims, and his view that if the bodies were exhumed, and the missing pieces of bullet recovered, it would establish that a different weapon had fired some of the shots, that killed them? He said that it would also be possible upon examining such pieces of bullet, to identify who manufactured them, and if they formed part of the same batch of Eley .22 LR subsonic hollow point ammunition, which is supposed to be the sole source of the crime scene ammunition?
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Is your informant suggesting that Sheila used two weapons, or someone else murdered the whole family.
If only fragments remain in the twins bodies, then some has already been recovered, which could be examined. Unless of course the recovered fragments have already been destroyed.

[grahameb]

Informant discussed with me the fact that not all the bullet/fragments were recovered from the bodies of the child victims, and his view that if the bodies were exhumed, and the missing pieces of bullet recovered, it would establish that a different weapon had fired some of the shots, that killed them? He said that it would also be possible upon examining such pieces of bullet, to identify who manufactured them, and if they formed part of the same batch of Eley .22 LR subsonic hollow point ammunition, which is supposed to be the sole source of the crime scene ammunition?

Why was I under the impression that Ralph and June were buried and not cremated?

[grahameb]

Great pictures Mike. The first words I read were "Stone of Destiny" then saw that big spike. Of course my mind wanders a bit and I immediately thought of paragliding and landing on that spike. Ouch some destiny.

[mertol22]

Informant discussed with me the fact that not all the bullet/fragments were recovered from the bodies of the child victims, and his view that if the bodies were exhumed, and the missing pieces of bullet recovered, it would establish that a different weapon had fired some of the shots, that killed them? He said that it would also be possible upon examining such pieces of bullet, to identify who manufactured them, and if they formed part of the same batch of Eley .22 LR subsonic hollow point ammunition, which is supposed to be the sole source of the crime scene ammunition?

Why was I under the impression that Ralph and June were buried and not cremated?

Unless i am mistaken only the twins were buried, the rest of the family were cremated, the remains buried and Sheilas ashes buried with the twins.

[jackiepreece]

I looked at the forum early this morning and I was surprised that there were over 40 viewings of the photos in two hours which must have been by 'guests'

Seems a lot of 'people' are interested in z and meetings taking place

[Roch]

I've never been sure of what to make of (Z).  So I have taken a sort of neutral stance, where I give Mike the benefit of the doubt, but only just.  Not all of Mike's posts yesterday had the blackberry type mobile icon on them.  One of them did but the others did not.  I'm not very clued up about those kind of blackberry type mobiles so I don't know whether every single post made from one should have that icon.  Nor do I know whether Mike had access to other facilities during his trip.  I'm also trying to recall whether I recently saw night time photos from Edinburgh on this forum.  I seem to have a vague recollection of such pics but cannot remember the context in which they were posted.  I wasn't going to post this on the open forum but in the interests of everyone being up front and straight with each other, I have decided to do so.

I'm afraid the jury's still out for me regarding (Z). 

[grahameb]

I looked at the forum early this morning and I was surprised that there were over 40 viewings of the photos in two hours which must have been by 'guests'

Seems a lot of 'people' are interested in z and meetings taking place

People like pictures. I remember that from my preaching days. People love to look at pictures and Mike's pictures are great. I've never been to Edinburgh myself and so found them very interesting.

[Buddy]

I've never been sure of what to make of (Z).  So I have taken a sort of neutral stance, where I give Mike the benefit of the doubt, but only just.  Not all of Mike's posts yesterday had the blackberry type mobile icon on them.  One of them did but the others did not.  I'm not very clued up about those kind of blackberry type mobiles so I don't know whether every single post made from one should have that icon.  Nor do I know whether Mike had access to other facilities during his trip.  I'm also trying to recall whether I recently saw night time photos from Edinburgh on this forum.  I seem to have a vague recollection of such pics but cannot remember the context in which they were posted.  I wasn't going to post this on the open forum but in the interests of everyone being up front and straight with each other, I have decided to do so.

I'm afraid the jury's still out for me regarding (Z).

Dave I agree with you.
I think the main problem with me is z.
Mike may be speaking from the heart, but zzzzzz does nothing for me.
Mike has expouded his views on a number of occasionns.
I trulely  hope mike has found someone to back him up. but I truely believe he has not.
I think someone is teasing Mike, but I am not so partisan.

[mike tesko]

I've never been sure of what to make of (Z).  So I have taken a sort of neutral stance, where I give Mike the benefit of the doubt, but only just.  Not all of Mike's posts yesterday had the blackberry type mobile icon on them.  One of them did but the others did not.  I'm not very clued up about those kind of blackberry type mobiles so I don't know whether every single post made from one should have that icon.  Nor do I know whether Mike had access to other facilities during his trip.  I'm also trying to recall whether I recently saw night time photos from Edinburgh on this forum.  I seem to have a vague recollection of such pics but cannot remember the context in which they were posted.  I wasn't going to post this on the open forum but in the interests of everyone being up front and straight with each other, I have decided to do so.

I'm afraid the jury's still out for me regarding (Z).

Dave I agree with you.
I think the main problem with me is z.
Mike may be speaking from the heart, but zzzzzz does nothing for me.
Mike has expouded his views on a number of occasionns.
I trulely  hope mike has found someone to back him up. but I truely believe he has not.
I think someone is teasing Mike, but I am not so partisan.

Ewen Smith (CCRC Commissioner) should be forced to identify the retired police officer who he met in London and told him about the silencer that was kept on DCI "Taff" Jones desk at Witham police station,  (he used the silencer as a paper weight), before that silencer was taken to the lab' to be examined in connection with this case. The silencer in question, was not the one sent to the lab' on 13th, and or, 30th August 1985, and can only be a reference to the second silencer which the relatives handed over to the police on 11th September 1985, which was not sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985, and not actually examined until 25th September 1985 (and found to have paint from the aga surround upon it)...

Ewen Smith should also be forced to identify the other two police officers he was told about by his informant, who knew about the existence of the second silencer I am talking about...